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Old 05-29-2019, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR View Post
Mesa fo makes way more! 50k bonus, paid holidays, 40 dollars a month ipad pay, and as much 200 percent ot that you can handle...enjoy )
There are FOs at mesa making well over 100k by doing OT, sometimes at 300%
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:00 PM
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Mesa pays first yr FO $36 vs $42 Envoy ?? second year Envoy continue with the Bonus Mesa not
Not quite. Mesas is $36 and envoys is $26. Envoys loa allows 38 first but Mesas is contractural. When ever envoy wants to they can pull that already expired loa and go back to the bankruptcy rates. Mesa can’t do that since they’re protected by their contract.
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Old 05-29-2019, 05:05 PM
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There are FOs at mesa making well over 100k by doing OT, sometimes at 300%
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyrider6911 View Post
Mesa pays first yr FO $36 vs $42 Envoy ?? second year Envoy continue with the Bonus Mesa not
Eeeeeh, others have pointed out bigger details than I m gonna say but a 1st year FO at Envoy is not making $42/hr. Not sure where you pulled that.

To me the obvious answer is to scratch Envoy off your list and look at either Mesa or Skywest.
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR View Post
Mesa fo makes way more! 50k bonus, paid holidays, 40 dollars a month ipad pay, and as much 200 percent ot that you can handle...enjoy )
300% open time trips right now.

But he’d be IAD based out of training for a couple of months but would be flying, even if on reserve.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:52 AM
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Commuting reserve is abysmal - Your QOL will be non-existent.

You will start your first day with a 4 am reserve availability, meaning you will have to arrive the night before. Then, you will likely sit in your hotel or crash pad for 4 out of the scheduled 5 days and on your last day you will get extended long enough to not make your commute home. 11 days off will now magically turn into 8 days when you consider that you have to fly in the night before and leave the day after.

There is no per diem unless you fly, and the parking is contribution is minimal (unless you live in base) - financially speaking it's a losing proposition.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:23 AM
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Commuting reserve is abysmal - Your QOL will be non-existent.

You will start your first day with a 4 am reserve availability, meaning you will have to arrive the night before. Then, you will likely sit in your hotel or crash pad for 4 out of the scheduled 5 days and on your last day you will get extended long enough to not make your commute home. 11 days off will now magically turn into 8 days when you consider that you have to fly in the night before and leave the day after.

There is no per diem unless you fly, and the parking is contribution is minimal (unless you live in base) - financially speaking it's a losing proposition.
8 days off? If we’re not counting non-work days that we commute as days off (which is what I thought you were doing), I had 5 full days at home my first month out of the schoolhouse. Very fast movement at the time I was hired and a base transfer made that just a one month problem... for ME. It would have lasted longer if I was a new hire today.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:20 AM
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Fair enough, I was being generous - but yes you are absolutely right
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:59 AM
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8 days off? If we’re not counting non-work days that we commute as days off (which is what I thought you were doing), I had 5 full days at home my first month out of the schoolhouse. Very fast movement at the time I was hired and a base transfer made that just a one month problem... for ME. It would have lasted longer if I was a new hire today.
Yeah bingo. We have arguably the worst reserve rules for junior pilots in the industry. You will hate it. Plan on looking at 6-12 months of doing it if things don’t get worse in the industry. The top 10% love our system and will fight for it to not change.
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CO Jones View Post
Commuting reserve is abysmal - Your QOL will be non-existent.

You will start your first day with a 4 am reserve availability, meaning you will have to arrive the night before. Then, you will likely sit in your hotel or crash pad for 4 out of the scheduled 5 days and on your last day you will get extended long enough to not make your commute home. 11 days off will now magically turn into 8 days when you consider that you have to fly in the night before and leave the day after.

There is no per diem unless you fly, and the parking is contribution is minimal (unless you live in base) - financially speaking it's a losing proposition.
You are exactly right..! that is what I don't want to do...no mention that your new hire bonus ($22000 ) will go away quickly if you are not able to do OT, unfortunately this is the price that we have to pay if we want to fly for the airlines. Another thing is Health Insurance I've a family of 3 how much will be cut for my paycheck?
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