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Cyio 05-31-2019 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2829250)
Must have something wrong to have spent long enough at Mesa to become a captain. With a resume like that he should have just needed to get some 121 time in order to get scooped up somewhere.

I’m certainly not cheerleading Mesa but not everyone over there is bad. Hell knowing what I know now I should have gone there lol. I have no issues in my record.

Their maintenance, well I have heard from many people and seen examples myself about how poorly the aircraft are maintained, so that holds up in my mind. Not unsafe, but lots and lots of MEL’s.

Tyrion 05-31-2019 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2829260)
I’m certainly not cheerleading Mesa but not everyone over there is bad. Hell knowing what I know now I should have gone there lol. I have no issues in my record.

Their maintenance, well I have heard from many people and seen examples myself about how poorly the aircraft are maintained, so that holds up in my mind. Not unsafe, but lots and lots of MEL’s.

I'm not saying everyone over there is bad, either. However, the company has a long history of being the lowest of the low balls and hiring anybody willing to fly for them.

I was riding on a crew van with a Mesa crew once, and the FO was telling the story of how he failed training at Envoy, failed training at another regional, and finally made it through training at Mesa. :eek:

As far as the retired AF colonel in the left seat at Mesa... really have to wonder why someone with that resume would not get snapped up by the majors. Perhaps he bombed his HR interview, which has been known to happen. At least he has a nice pension to supplement his regional pilot salary.

rld1k 05-31-2019 07:03 AM

Colonel's get DUIs too

pitchattitude 05-31-2019 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2829353)
Colonel's get DUIs too

Very true!! Something like that is harder to recover from later in life than earlier in a career.

NoValueAviator 05-31-2019 08:49 AM

Mesa isn’t AQP, or at least it wasn’t last time I checked. It is harder to get through their training than it is ours, especially on the 175.

CO Jones 06-02-2019 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Skyrider6911 (Post 2828804)
You are exactly right..! that is what I don't want to do...no mention that your new hire bonus ($22000 ) will go away quickly if you are not able to do OT, unfortunately this is the price that we have to pay if we want to fly for the airlines. Another thing is Health Insurance I've a family of 3 how much will be cut for my paycheck?

Your paycheck during training will be pretty decent, but once you are done and the per diem falls off - you will see a drastic reduction.

The medical will probably set you back about $300-$400 a month depending on what option you pick.


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