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Cyio 07-06-2019 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2848581)
No bets. Call your rep, or even better, call EM directly. Clearly you weren't in the pilot lounge when he told everyone that.
Let us know what he says when you call him.

What if I am a rep and have not had a single bit of information like this passed onto me?

rld1k 07-06-2019 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2848589)
I've been to Riddle once, yes.
Why is this relevant?

Why do you vigorously rebut every point made against the company? Is it because you don't want your buddies on Facebook to think you work at a subpar regional?

boiler07 07-06-2019 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2848581)
No bets. Call your rep, or even better, call EM directly. Clearly you weren't in the pilot lounge when he told everyone that.
Let us know what he says when you call him.

Who's EM and what universe are you living in?

dera 07-06-2019 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2848592)
What if I am a rep and have not had a single bit of information like this passed onto me?

Ask EM then. Please tell us what he says, ok?

dera 07-06-2019 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by boiler07 (Post 2848656)
Who's EM and what universe are you living in?

You have been here for how long, and you don't know who EM is? Look it up, head of a few departments. You'll figure it out. Call him.

pitchattitude 07-06-2019 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2848671)
You have been here for how long, and you don't know who EM is? Look it up, head of a few departments. You'll figure it out. Call him.

Are referencing a union person? He is chair of several committees, not head of departments.

From what I heard, Union reps were in the DFW crew room. Nothing about the AIP being enforceable. Did indicate there might be some talks planned. Biggest thing is supposedly (Bueller?, Bueller?) apps are down 25%. Maybe why the company is coming back, maybe AAG told Envoy to quit F’n around and do this. But I doubt it. May have been told not to F this up, but I doubt they were told HOW to do this as long as they DON’T F it up. Pretty sure if Envoy did start to let things slip that AAG would step in, but that’s just my SWAG.

dera 07-06-2019 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2848704)
Are referencing a union person? He is chair of several committees, not head of departments.

From what I heard, Union reps were in the DFW crew room. Nothing about the AIP being enforceable. Did indicate there might be some talks planned. Biggest thing is supposedly (Bueller?, Bueller?) apps are down 25%. Maybe why the company is coming back, maybe AAG told Envoy to quit F’n around and do this. But I doubt it. May have been told not to F this up, but I doubt they were told HOW to do this as long as they DON’T F it up. Pretty sure if Envoy did start to let things slip that AAG would step in, but that’s just my SWAG.

Same person. And apps according to him are up, not down.
Ask him, let us know what he says.

pitchattitude 07-06-2019 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2848718)
Same person. And apps according to him are up, not down.
Ask him, let us know what he says.

Since different people are putting out different information, I guess we will just have to wait and see. Not like we can do much of anything else anyway.

skyemiles2 07-06-2019 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2848726)
Since different people are putting out different information, I guess we will just have to wait and see. Not like we can do much of anything else anyway.

New hires were told apps were up.

Whether that’s due to the cadet and RTP pipe maturing, the potential for a pay raise, or if it’s just due to the fact that most places have waits for classes right now, who really knows.

RawHide 07-07-2019 04:37 AM

Apps were up after the psa raise (likely people believed it would come) but since the failed aip apps are down. So it’s more about when your information is from.


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