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pitchattitude 06-21-2019 12:04 PM

New vacancy and DISPLACEMENT bid
 
The new bid was announced and includes what looks like the displacement of the CRJ pilots.

Cyio 06-21-2019 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2840909)
The new bid was announced and includes what looks like the displacement of the CRJ pilots.

Its the final nail in the coffin for the crj. Looks like lots are going to LGA, so make sure everyone has their displacements in order so as not to get dumped somewhere you dont want to be, or worse yet, locked there due to a preference bid you placed years ago.

uavking 06-21-2019 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2840909)
The new bid was announced and includes what looks like the displacement of the CRJ pilots.

Lots of commuters on the CRJ fleet, so don't necessarily assume that guys will automatically gun for ORD spots, because they may use it as their chance to finally get to DFW, etc.

pitchattitude 06-21-2019 02:07 PM

Vacancy/Displacement bid
 
*VACANCIES* *ENTER TRAINING NO LATER THAN*
<15 DFW CA EMJ <28 DEC 20
<50 LGA CA EMJ <28 DEC 20
<30 ORD CA E75 <28 DEC 20
<55 DFW CA E75 <28 DEC 20

<15 DFW FO EMJ <28 DEC 20
<60 LGA FO EMJ <28 DEC 20
<10 ORD FO E75 <28 DEC 20
<85 DFW FO E75 <28 DEC 20

*DISPLACEMENT* *ENTER TRAINING NO LATER THAN*
<45 ORD CA CRJ <28 DEC 20
<54 ORD FO CRJ <28 DEC 20

That is still a net gain of 105 CA seats, about what the previous ones have been, so expect to see continued forced upgrades.

Cyio 06-21-2019 02:12 PM

I am curious the average seniority of those crj pilots.

pitchattitude 06-21-2019 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2840970)
I am curious the average seniority of those crj pilots.

Last time I looked, there were about 20 or so that were either lifers or at least wouldn’t flow by years end, about 15 that would flow by then. There are about 25 with less than two years, maybe even less than one year, seniority. So really spread out all over of the 45 or so that will be displaced.

Cyio 06-21-2019 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2840979)
Last time I looked, there were about 20 or so that were either lifers or at least wouldn’t flow by years end, about 15 that would flow by then. There are about 25 with less than two years, maybe even less than one year, seniority. So really spread out all over of the 45 or so that will be displaced.

Ok so it won’t likely shift bidding around too much.

pitchattitude 06-21-2019 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2840986)
Ok so it won’t likely shift bidding around too much.

I really don’t think so. And as someone pointed out, there are probably a lot of folks that will use this to get to other locations. With the overall numbers and movement to other locations I don’t think this is going to be a blip. Maybe the biggest hit will be to FOs on the 175 reserve in DFW, but I seriously don’t even see that as the numbers just aren’t that significant compared to new hires or other statuses.

Ijustlikeflying 06-21-2019 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2840918)
Its the final nail in the coffin for the crj. Looks like lots are going to LGA, so make sure everyone has their displacements in order so as not to get dumped somewhere you dont want to be, or worse yet, locked there due to a preference bid you placed years ago.

Yup, the number of displaced for both ca and fo on the crj matches the number of ca and FOs left on the fleet type. Bye bye crj. This will throw a curve ball in the bid, big time.

Dmaxvelo18 06-21-2019 05:35 PM

Besides lifers and a few exceptions. Most FO’s are way senior to their captains on the CRJ.


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