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Tyrion 07-23-2019 09:53 PM

Speedbirds
 
It must be nice to be part of a union willing to do union stuff.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ghts-disrupted

Cyio 07-24-2019 02:13 AM

While I feel our union, ALPA in general for that matter, should take more direct action, the laws are different there.

Comparing the two directly would be inconsistent with the reality of the RLA.

chrisreedrules 07-24-2019 07:14 AM

Different labor laws. And good luck ever getting close to being released to strike in the current political environment under the current administration.

NoValueAviator 07-24-2019 07:31 AM

Some have said that RLA makes unions a way of cheaply retaining employees who in a rational market would go elsewhere. If I could make a lateral move to another regional without stigma and without losing seniority, I'd be resigned before 5 o' clock today. Similarly, if I could withhold labor until management raised compensation (and QOL) to market rates, I'd be happy to stay. Can't do either without shooting myself in the foot as it is now.

Tyrion 07-24-2019 09:28 AM

I'm not saying that the union has to strike or ignoring the realities of RLA. However, I am not the only who is less than impressed by the union and their lack of action.

RawHide 07-24-2019 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Tyrion (Post 2858332)
I'm not saying that the union has to strike or ignoring the realities of RLA. However, I am not the only who is less than impressed by the union and their lack of action.

What action would you have them take? A slow down?

pitchattitude 07-24-2019 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by RawHide (Post 2858447)
What action would you have them take? A slow down?

Informational picketing. They should be going to every recruiting event to give prospective candidates both sides of the picture.

And the union should do something about union members in recruiting. That is something EVERY pilot working in recruiting is doing to themselves and everyone else. No one in the union (every pilot but management!) should be doing anything to help the company put butts in new hire classes until we get a pay raise.

rld1k 07-24-2019 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2858464)
Informational picketing. They should be going to every recruiting event to give prospective candidates both sides of the picture.

And the union should do something about union members in recruiting. That is something EVERY pilot working in recruiting is doing to themselves and everyone else. No one in the union (every pilot but management!) should be doing anything to help the company put butts in new hire classes until we get a pay raise.

Wait we have union members in recruiting?

pitchattitude 07-24-2019 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2858492)
Wait we have union members in recruiting?

I hope that’s rhetorical.

Almost every pilot in recruiting is a line pilot and therefore a union member. There may be some that are out on medical. Can’t blame those if it still puts food on the table for them. But everyone that is capable of flying should be flying and not recruiting.

rld1k 07-24-2019 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2858498)
I hope that’s rhetorical.

Almost every pilot in recruiting is a line pilot and therefore a union member. There may be some that are out on medical. Can’t blame those if it still puts food on the table for them. But everyone that is capable of flying should be flying and not recruiting.

I misunderstood that I thought you meant MEC members


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