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bigtime209 09-25-2019 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2892964)
Imagine that. They do.

Imagine that...it's incomplete and all messed up.

Chato 09-25-2019 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2893043)
Imagine that...it's incomplete and all messed up.

Pretty sure ALPA didnt come up with any wording in case of partial compensation penalties. So now they can just payback August whenever thy feel like it. Doubt they’ll hold them responsible for paying the extra 20 hrs a month for not making a complete payment.

Gooselives 09-25-2019 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Chato (Post 2893048)
Pretty sure ALPA didnt come up with any wording in case of partial compensation penalties. So now they can just payback August whenever thy feel like it. Doubt they’ll hold them responsible for paying the extra 20 hrs a month for not making a complete payment.

We have the worst lawyers in the world better call saul

buddies8 09-25-2019 06:59 AM

Only true up for ot was June according to pay statement. Activity pay sheet shows nothing for any month. No breakdown of anything. This audit stinks. Alpa better come to the plate. We need a complete breakdown per month and per ot to see how they came up with these numbers, because so it is we have no idea what they are using for numbers.
Also August should be included with end of Sept check but not.
This is a violation of agreement.

pitchattitude 09-25-2019 07:18 AM

Pay Comp needs to send an email to everyone and explain things so they don’t have to respond to 2500 individual emails.

Of course, they need a way on the pay stub to break things out.

KodiakRS 09-25-2019 07:52 AM

Any word on if the retro applies to those of us who flowed between the start of retro and now? I know it was discussed at one point but I'm not holding my breath.

NoValueAviator 09-25-2019 08:26 AM

Well, so much for that LOA. A steep concession by the pilots from what had already been agreed, and even then Envoy won’t stick to it.

If you’re too dumb to calculate the actual back pay by Sep 30, you have to pay the 20 hour override. Very simple. But Envoy says nah, we’ll do whatever we want. Hope this goes to arbitration but I know it won’t.

YLpilot 09-25-2019 09:14 AM

I am dumbfounded on just how bad they have screwed up an opportunity to build good will.

pitchattitude 09-25-2019 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by KodiakRS (Post 2893110)
Any word on if the retro applies to those of us who flowed between the start of retro and now? I know it was discussed at one point but I'm not holding my breath.

It should. I think there was a FAQ that addressed it from a union email maybe?

Varsity 09-25-2019 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by YLpilot (Post 2893160)
I am dumbfounded on just how bad they have screwed up an opportunity to build good will.

This really surprises you?


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