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Tellheritwasntu 09-29-2019 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2895530)
Yea the opposite is true. If you didn’t consider the fact that the majority of WO Captains are leaving to AA due to the flow, the WOs still send the most pilots to the legacies every month of any other airlines.

Basically if you’re flowing 20 /month and another 2-3 leave for another legacy besides AA, you’re still losing 23 pilots that month. What other regional out there is sending 23 pilots /month to a legacy airline?

Just saying. Something comparable would be like saying “Skywest sent 700 of the 1000 most senior pilots last year to the majors”

That obviously did not happen. I’ll bet one years worth of per diem on this.

pitchattitude 09-29-2019 05:41 PM

If all the other regionals aren’t losing pilots off the top, why are they still hiring so many pilots? Has any regional grown significantly? I ran into the captain that interviewed me at another regional a year later and he said they had zero net gain of pilots. Just like Envoy, I’m sure there is some attrition the first year, but that can’t be all of it.

The majors and LCCs are hiring smaller percentage of exclusively military fixed wing pilots every year. Where do you think those pilots come from? Thin air? I’m not saying it is easy, far from it. But the entire time I flew as an FO there wasn’t more than a few captains that had updated an application anywhere in the last year.

The flow invites laziness, which is exactly what AAG wants and they are paying us less because of it.

NoValueAviator 09-30-2019 01:46 AM

Endeavor, Republic and Skywest are all growing rapidly from what I understand.

smtx123 09-30-2019 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2895541)
If all the other regionals aren’t losing pilots off the top, why are they still hiring so many pilots? Has any regional grown significantly? I ran into the captain that interviewed me at another regional a year later and he said they had zero net gain of pilots. Just like Envoy, I’m sure there is some attrition the first year, but that can’t be all of it.

The majors and LCCs are hiring smaller percentage of exclusively military fixed wing pilots every year. Where do you think those pilots come from? Thin air? I’m not saying it is easy, far from it. But the entire time I flew as an FO there wasn’t more than a few captains that had updated an application anywhere in the last year.

The flow invites laziness, which is exactly what AAG wants and they are paying us less because of it.

I agree, a lot of captains I fly with in DFW are either lifers, or guys hired 2016-2017 that hit the flow sweet spot. Can you blame them for being complacent? I mean some of them have a sub 5 year flow. A no interview flow through in 5 years to a major? Yeah I might be big chillin until I flow in that situation.

However I think this will change as guys hired late 2017 and later get competitive experience. Except a small portion, most wont want to wait another 5+ years for flow when they meet mins at other quality airlines.

Time will tell.


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