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The amount of guys sticking up for "CW" on this forum, supposedly by Envoy guys, is absolutely shocking. Many of you don't know half of the story of what that guy pulled. Do you really believe that he just happened to get the rep he did while in office?
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Although he didn't "hose" me, he was quite rude and arrogant towards me. I was trying to be proactive about consolidating, and it was tight being on reserve. Unfortunately, I had orders coming up I couldn't shift. I needed less than 2 hours to make it. Following the chain of command I went to him. He said something to the effect of "I don't need to help you people, and you don't deserve special treatment just being in the military.. if you have to repeat initial again that's between you and the training department."
Although technically true, I was floored since AA is generally so Mil friendly. I called the training department and they happily got me on the schedule to consolidate. He could have done that as easily as I did. It was strange. Taking care of people is really easier than trying to **** them off. |
Originally Posted by CaseTractor
(Post 2948790)
Although he didn't "hose" me, he was quite rude and arrogant towards me. I was trying to be proactive about consolidating, and it was tight being on reserve. Unfortunately, I had orders coming up I couldn't shift. I needed less than 2 hours to make it. Following the chain of command I went to him. He said something to the effect of "I don't need to help you people, and you don't deserve special treatment just being in the military.. if you have to repeat initial again that's between you and the training department."
Although technically true, I was floored since AA is generally so Mil friendly. I called the training department and they happily got me on the schedule to consolidate. He could have done that as easily as I did. It was strange. Taking care of people is really easier than trying to **** them off. He didn’t earn this reputation because he was awkward, he earned it for a reason. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 2948937)
Not sure why this is even a thing, the guy was unnecessarily bad to people. He often went out of his way to prove a point and levied spiteful punishments on people for no reason. Just talk to people in contract compliance about the guy.
He didn’t earn this reputation because he was awkward, he earned it for a reason. |
Originally Posted by CaseTractor
(Post 2948790)
Although he didn't "hose" me, he was quite rude and arrogant towards me. I was trying to be proactive about consolidating, and it was tight being on reserve. Unfortunately, I had orders coming up I couldn't shift. I needed less than 2 hours to make it. Following the chain of command I went to him. He said something to the effect of "I don't need to help you people, and you don't deserve special treatment just being in the military.. if you have to repeat initial again that's between you and the training department."
Although technically true, I was floored since AA is generally so Mil friendly. I called the training department and they happily got me on the schedule to consolidate. He could have done that as easily as I did. It was strange. Taking care of people is really easier than trying to **** them off. |
Originally Posted by HobGoblin
(Post 2949016)
Lol so you wanted him to make the phone call to training? He can’t give you flying. You talked to the wrong person. He sounds like a terrible guy. 🙄
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Originally Posted by BigZ
(Post 2949022)
So when you're about to expire on landings and the HI6 says contact the CPO there's no point in doing that then? ;)
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Originally Posted by HobGoblin
(Post 2949030)
Ha good point, but not the same thing
You notice we dont hear about our past DFW CPO being such a negative person? The CPO there wasn't a place to be afraid of nor did they go out of their way to be negative, ORD and CW certainly did. You can be a manager that carries the company line all day long, CW gave the impression he enjoyed being that way and enjoyed that the pilots feared him, that's the difference. Anyway, it doesn't matter, he is AA's problem now and we all should just hope that he never makes it into the CPO over there, else we all suffer. |
I love how all you here in the peanut gallery hide behind screen names and throw rocks at someone who was simply following policy and procedure and just doing his job.
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Originally Posted by THKooj
(Post 2949048)
I love how all you here in the peanut gallery hide behind screen names and throw rocks at someone who was simply following policy and procedure and just doing his job.
Secondly, this is a "discussion" forum, therefore people are going to discuss things, some good, some bad with nothing but a screen name. Lastly, this man created this himself. There hasn't been a single time that I can remember in years that when his name is brought up in the flight deck that it isn't immediately scorned. You can call me a liar all you want, but it still doesn't make me wrong. |
Originally Posted by THKooj
(Post 2949048)
I love how all you here in the peanut gallery hide behind screen names and throw rocks at someone who was simply following policy and procedure and just doing his job.
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Most of the banter here is from keyboard warriors who want to sow dislike and distrust of the company. The comments about this particular individual are way overblown. It's clear he was doing his job. Like some guys who can't seem to folliw the manual and wear the appropriate uniform pieces, they are unhappy with any authority. I'm just pointing out facts.
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Originally Posted by THKooj
(Post 2949080)
Most of the banter here is from keyboard warriors who want to sow dislike and distrust of the company. The comments about this particular individual are way overblown. It's clear he was doing his job. Like some guys who can't seem to folliw the manual and wear the appropriate uniform pieces, they are unhappy with any authority. I'm just pointing out facts.
JD ORD chief pilot was great. He was followed by CW. CW was horrible. Both held the same job and performed the same duties. One cared about the pilots, one went out of his way to flex his power negatively. Karma Sucks |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 2948937)
Not sure why this is even a thing, the guy was unnecessarily bad to people. He often went out of his way to prove a point and levied spiteful punishments on people for no reason. Just talk to people in contract compliance about the guy.
He didn’t earn this reputation because he was awkward, he earned it for a reason. |
Is DJ coming back? She was a really good gal
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There is a petition going around for him not to be let into APA.
Approximately 15,000 signatures possible. Easy day. |
Originally Posted by Laminar
(Post 2954303)
There is a petition going around for him not to be let into APA.
Approximately 15,000 signatures possible. Easy day. |
Did he get Voted into APA?
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Originally Posted by FAIPMAFIA
(Post 2977799)
Did he get Voted into APA?
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The new ORD guy MR is 100% NoValueAviator approved for anyone who cares. Opportunity for culture change fully exploited imo.
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 2978930)
The new ORD guy MR is 100% NoValueAviator approved for anyone who cares. Opportunity for culture change fully exploited imo.
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 2978960)
He is really good. Total u-turn from the previous turd.
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This is good to hear. I have to say I have had a positive experience the last two times I had to deal with crew scheduling. Granted I’m not reserve, but they’ve worked with me when I totally expected them not to. I know this is separate from previous cp talk but just thought I’d put it out there. Give credit where credit is due..Hope I didnt jinx myself tho.
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 2978930)
The new ORD guy MR is 100% NoValueAviator approved for anyone who cares. Opportunity for culture change fully exploited imo.
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I hope there is not a chief pilot flow back.
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. |
Originally Posted by Laminar
(Post 3047779)
I hope there is not a chief pilot flow back.
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. |
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