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Originally Posted by Fonzo
(Post 2956688)
so if CMH was home wouldn't ENV be better commuting from ORD vs PDT commuting from PHL as for pay both are the same but reserve time is what differs
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Originally Posted by Fonzo
(Post 2956675)
the only 145 operators with 50/hour are PDT and ENV, who else?
another thing is their base close to CMH is ORD, PDT have PHL which is close to CMH but don't know if there are daily flights to commute. As far as the 50-seater world goes, I'm less concerned about the top line hourly rate, and more concerned about the bottom line. Flying 50 seaters, you can make more money at most other places despite the lower hourly rates. They make up for it with more productive lines, huge sign-on and retention bonuses, better pay protection, more premium pay, etc. An extra 30 hours of soft pay more than makes up the difference in hourly rates. |
Originally Posted by Fonzo
(Post 2956675)
the only 145 operators with 50/hour are PDT and ENV, who else?
another thing is their base close to CMH is ORD, PDT have PHL which is close to CMH but don't know if there are daily flights to commute. |
Coming over from PSA
Thinking about coming to envoy from psa for a DFW base. I live in the DFW area and wondering if it’s worth it?
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Originally Posted by Dman2141
(Post 2962046)
Thinking about coming to envoy from psa for a DFW base. I live in the DFW area and wondering if it’s worth it?
How many years have you been at PSA? If basically a new hire then MAYBE it’s worth it. |
Originally Posted by havick206
(Post 2962048)
No, because you will be displaced the NY 145 CA and won’t see DFW for quite a while.
How many years have you been at PSA? If basically a new hire then MAYBE it’s worth it. |
Originally Posted by Dman2141
(Post 2962054)
yeah basically a new hire 7 months with PSA, so DFW is not doable?
Your best shot is having enough 121 time to still get a 175. You’ll probably end up in ORD and can get to DFW in three to six months. Then you stay on reserve avoiding flying so you can upgrade on the 175 and stay in DFW. But it is all very much a crap shoot. |
Originally Posted by Dman2141
(Post 2962054)
yeah basically a new hire 7 months with PSA, so DFW is not doable?
Keep your seniority at PSA, stay over there. You’ll be commuting at Envoy too. |
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
(Post 2962062)
If you play your cards right, you might get to keep your AAG employee number.
Your best shot is having enough 121 time to still get a 175. You’ll probably end up in ORD and can get to DFW in three to six months. Then you stay on reserve avoiding flying so you can upgrade on the 175 and stay in DFW. But it is all very much a crap shoot. from what I gather, not that many hours in the first 7 months at PSA, so "omg 145 lga" might not apply |
Originally Posted by BigZ
(Post 2962273)
this
from what I gather, not that many hours in the first 7 months at PSA, so "omg 145 lga" might not apply Anyway, if the former, probably really low 121 time. Bid a 145 on your hire date and bid reserve monthly until your hire class peers catch up. Should get DFW pretty quick... not in class but probably on the first bid after. Reserve rules are really bad here but mainly on commuters. If you live in base, with just a little bit of seniority, life isn't all that bad on reserve. |
Reserve on each is different
Originally Posted by speedbrakearmed
(Post 2956837)
I'm not grasping your question. If you live in CMH go to Envoy. If you live in PHL go to PDT. Reserve will be longer at PDT but driving to work is still driving to work.
which is better in terms of pay hense flying and reserve time. Thank you in advance |
Originally Posted by Fonzo
(Post 2963813)
Ok so CMH is home, and if we compare Envoy juniour base which would likely be ORD but reserve time is long vs Peidmont juniour base which likely would be PHL and reserve is 3 months if am not mistakened.
which is better in terms of pay hense flying and reserve time. Thank you in advance |
I don’t know enough about PSA to argue PSA v ENY. I do know that commuting “down” a time zone helps a lot. ORD also has two airline hubs versus one in PHL. That equates to twice the flights (plus MDW as a side bonus emergency outlet).
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Come to Envoy cause the commute from ORD is easy and we also do overnights there and we have a Mx base there as well, so you’ll even get paid to overnight at home
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Agreed, Same. Commuted from FWA to ORD. Super easy with the 1hr time change/gain, plus being both united and American hub. I overnighted soo many times in worthington, you’ll get home a lot.
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Originally Posted by Fonzo
(Post 2963813)
Ok so CMH is home, and if we compare Envoy juniour base which would likely be ORD but reserve time is long vs Peidmont juniour base which likely would be PHL and reserve is 3 months if am not mistakened.
which is better in terms of pay hense flying and reserve time. Thank you in advance For the Envoy vs PDT discussion, I'd take Envoy. At that point it's really like picking your 5th or 6th favorite color. PHL seems to be a fairly miserable place to operate and your commute is probably limited compared to commuting to other hubs. ORD should be an easy commute, but if you are looking at ORD, you have plenty of other regionals to consider. |
Originally Posted by Tyrion
(Post 2964855)
PSA in DAY
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Why did the pbs topic get removed? Seemed like it was going fine.
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How does bidding for bases work at envoy? You do it every month and it takes effect 3 months later or are you seat locked in certain airframe for certain bases? Trying to figure out if I’ll be able to get Dfw as an FO and captain in a reasonable timeframe of about 3-5 months.
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Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 2964890)
Why did the pbs topic get removed? Seemed like it was going fine.
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Originally Posted by Dman2141
(Post 2964893)
How does bidding for bases work at envoy? You do it every month and it takes effect 3 months later or are you seat locked in certain airframe for certain bases? Trying to figure out if I’ll be able to get Dfw as an FO and captain in a reasonable timeframe of about 3-5 months.
If you get the 175, the growth is in ORD, but it seems reasonable that DFW would be available every vacancy bid. If you get the 145, prepare to be a nomad as you'll probably start in LGA, transfer to ORD, then transfer to DFW. That will take a while, anywhere from 6-12 months probably. |
Originally Posted by Tyrion
(Post 2964855)
CMH being home is a key piece of information. Why the heck isn't Republic at the top of your list? After Republic, PSA in DAY is a short enough drive away to be reserve at home. You will have much better QOL and make more money there without giving up flow. Endeavor is an easy commute with better QOL, and looks like they are opening CVG.
For the Envoy vs PDT discussion, I'd take Envoy. At that point it's really like picking your 5th or 6th favorite color. PHL seems to be a fairly miserable place to operate and your commute is probably limited compared to commuting to other hubs. ORD should be an easy commute, but if you are looking at ORD, you have plenty of other regionals to consider. Yay another yet anti Envoy post from ya |
Originally Posted by UncreativeUser
(Post 2964930)
Yay another yet anti Envoy post from ya
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