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UncreativeUser 01-22-2020 06:23 PM

iPad Air 3
 
Anyone have an idea of when we get them? I was told around March.


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f16jetmech 01-22-2020 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2962217)
Anyone have an idea of when we get them? I was told around March.


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Inside info says January 27th to order them

UncreativeUser 01-22-2020 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by f16jetmech (Post 2962239)
Inside info says January 27th to order them



Oh that’s coming up soon, thanks. Super excited for the new ones!


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highfarfast 01-22-2020 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by SparrowBird (Post 2962253)
For 139$ the company will also let you keep your old one.

MY old one... or AN old one?

I ask because I've heard we will still have to ship ours back to get them wiped. I don't want someone else's that has a battery going bad or whatnot.

Cyio 01-23-2020 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by SparrowBird (Post 2962253)
For 139$ the company will also let you keep your old one.

I would pay it. Mainly because I have also heard that the wifi functionality of the new ones will only allow like 4 applications to run. So if you watch Netflix on it at the hotel or use it to search the internet, looks like that may go away.

Cyio 01-23-2020 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2962271)
MY old one... or AN old one?

I ask because I've heard we will still have to ship ours back to get them wiped. I don't want someone else's that has a battery going bad or whatnot.

Yeah they would have to offer some sort of warranty on it otherwise its not that great of a deal. Like you said, if I could keep the one I have, which I know has been taken care of and is in great shape, awesome, otherwise I dont know.

tommy2times 01-23-2020 06:44 AM

$139! Why don’t they let us keep it for free as a good gesture and to bring the moral up a tad; I think that will be a good start to 2020.

Cujo665 01-23-2020 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 2962456)
$139! Why don’t they let us keep it for free as a good gesture and to bring the moral up a tad; I think that will be a good start to 2020.

They are probably letting you buy them at the trade in value they'd get if they traded them. Not a bad deal actually.

tommy2times 01-23-2020 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2962473)
They are probably letting you buy them at the trade in value they'd get if they traded them. Not a bad deal actually.

$139 is a lot of money for a poor FO that lives off bologna and wonder bread.

Captain Kirk 01-23-2020 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 2962488)
$139 is a lot of money for a poor FO that lives off bologna and wonder bread.

Damn you buy Wonder bread?! I usually hang around the dumpster at the local bagel shop for the throwaways 😁

Cyio 01-23-2020 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 2962488)
$139 is a lot of money for a poor FO that lives off bologna and wonder bread.

Pick up an OT turn and you are done lol. I know, I get it, but still is a good deal.

HalyardJammer 01-23-2020 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Kirk (Post 2962545)
Damn you buy Wonder bread?! I usually hang around the dumpster at the local bagel shop for the throwaways 😁

Bread Winners off of 114 discounts their expensive pastries after about 5pm.

Happyflyer 01-23-2020 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 2962488)
$139 is a lot of money for a poor FO that lives off bologna and wonder bread.

Endeavor is getting to keep their old ones for free, wonder if they'll reconsider.

UncreativeUser 01-23-2020 08:38 PM

Where does it say we had to pay for the new ones in the email we got from RW?

buddies8 01-24-2020 04:32 AM

Just curious when that email from rw was, never got it.

highfarfast 01-24-2020 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2963015)
Where does it say we had to pay for the new ones in the email we got from RW?

New ones come free.

Supposedly, you will have the option to buy your old one if you want to keep it as well.

highfarfast 01-24-2020 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2963097)
Just curious when that email from rw was, never got it.

Me either.

UncreativeUser 01-24-2020 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2963109)
New ones come free.



Supposedly, you will have the option to buy your old one if you want to keep it as well.



Thanks, idk why anyone would buy out a clapped out 5 year old iPad lol


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UncreativeUser 01-24-2020 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2963097)
Just curious when that email from rw was, never got it.


Here ya go! From RW

Wishing you the Happiest of Holidays!

As 2019 draws to an end, it has been yet another remarkable year for Envoy. Year over year we have seen a steady increase in daily operations and the number of aircraft that we fly, further solidifying our position as the largest and best American Eagle operator for American Airlines. This growth coupled with the high number of pilots advancing to American Airlines has created a fast moving seniority list, where time to Captain is only about two years from date of hire. This year we also reached a new agreement with the Air Line Pilots Association that provided a significant increase in pilot pay rates and even higher flow-through rates, further accelerating the timetable for all new hire pilots to more quickly reach their ultimate destination at American Airlines. Last week, the 2,000th Envoy pilot flowed to American Airlines to continue his flying career at the mainline, marking an impressive milestone for Envoy and the industry as a whole. In fact, since 2014, Envoy has provided 50 percent of American’s new-hire pilots.

As we look ahead to 2020, Envoy is set to continue its growth pattern with more aircraft, more departures and more block hours. This growth along with our expectation that a high number of our pilots will continue to advance to American Airlines will continue to drive the need for a large number of new Captains and new hire pilots next year. Not only will we continue to see short times for upgrade to Captain, but we will also see reduced time to AA – where in 2020 we are projecting flow-through pilots will reach five and half years from date of hire. We will be making some major investments on the flight deck as we are set to undergo an Electronic Flight Bag refresh where we will transition to the new iPad Air 3 along with a new case mounting system. As well as, migrating to a new Distance Learning platform that will now be compatible with our Electronic Flight Bag and no longer require the use of a desktop computer. All of these enhancements are possible due to your hard work and professionalism in providing a safe, reliable and efficient service for American Airlines. Keep up the good work.



20192020+/(-)
New Hires598636+ 6 %
Captain Upgrades368450+ 22 %
Fleet183192+ 5 %
Departures341,642348,893+ 2 %
Block Hours577,031607,670+ 5 %


Crowds are now gathering in airports all across the country – a sure sign that the holidays are in full swing. For all of you who will be working over the coming weeks and days, my sincere thanks for your hard work, ensuring our passengers reach their holiday celebrations safe and sound. It’s a very special thing we do, connecting people to those who are most important to them – and it wouldn’t be possible without your efforts!

I hope you will find time to spend with family and friends in the coming days, celebrating and reflecting on our many blessings.

All the best to you and yours – happy holidays and have a very Happy New Year!

Best regards,
**** ******



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CaseTractor 01-24-2020 08:58 AM

can these be used with Verizon wireless with a new sim card, or are they ATT compatible only if we wanted to keep cell data function?

UncreativeUser 01-24-2020 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by CaseTractor (Post 2963318)
can these be used with Verizon wireless with a new sim card, or are they ATT compatible only if we wanted to keep cell data function?



Since it’s provided by the company they dictate who the cell provider is and Apple locks it into that carrier


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Cyio 01-24-2020 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2963324)
Since it’s provided by the company they dictate who the cell provider is and Apple locks it into that carrier


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oh yeah that’s a good point. Well a hard pass for me. That was easy.

JonSnow 01-24-2020 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2963324)
Since it’s provided by the company they dictate who the cell provider is and Apple locks it into that carrier


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You can get it unlocked by contacting ATT.

can you use it with Verizon? Depends
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/i...-unlocked.html

UncreativeUser 01-24-2020 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2963335)
oh yeah that’s a good point. Well a hard pass for me. That was easy.



What iPad would you use then? I agree Verizon is better than ATT but it’s not like we’re paying the data bill lol, would you use your own? I have no idea if we can or not I never really looked into it.


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BigZ 01-24-2020 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2963395)
What iPad would you use then? I agree Verizon is better than ATT but it’s not like we’re paying the data bill lol, would you use your own? I have no idea if we can or not I never really looked into it.


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yeah, depending on your plan just as a tablet line and use it for data

highfarfast 01-24-2020 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2963266)
Thanks, idk why anyone would buy out a clapped out 5 year old iPad lol


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Which is why I was asking if the one we "kept" is the one we've been actually using. Mine's far newer than 5 years and is in pretty good shape. But if I send it off for the security wipe and I get someone else's clapped out 5 year old iPad, I'd be ****ed.

UncreativeUser 01-24-2020 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2963455)
Which is why I was asking if the one we "kept" is the one we've been actually using. Mine's far newer than 5 years and is in pretty good shape. But if I send it off for the security wipe and I get someone else's clapped out 5 year old iPad, I'd be ****ed.



Same, but if RW said new an updated refresh of the efb program with NEW iPad Air 3’s (aka the current one on the market being sold as “iPad Air” on Apples website) than I expect it to be very new. I’m not gonna be surprised if it’s not new nor upset, but that’s just how the email was worded and I’m watching closely on accountability on that email


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highfarfast 01-24-2020 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2963458)
Same, but if RW said new an updated refresh of the efb program with NEW iPad Air 3’s (aka the current one on the market being sold as “iPad Air” on Apples website) than I expect it to be very new. I’m not gonna be surprised if it’s not new nor upset, but that’s just how the email was worded and I’m watching closely on accountability on that email


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Yes, I know the new ones will be NEW. I'm talking about if we chose to buy our old ones to keep.

UncreativeUser 01-24-2020 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2963494)
Yes, I know the new ones will be NEW. I'm talking about if we chose to buy our old ones to keep.



Gotcha, would you’d want to keep the old one?


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JonSnow 01-24-2020 01:08 PM

I believe they can remotely wipe all the company apps from iPads. Like they did with the old CCI. Then you just need to remove AA Mobile Device Management profile and it’s all yours.

highfarfast 01-24-2020 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2963527)
Gotcha, would you’d want to keep the old one?


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I might if it was the one I'm currently using. Haven't decided. Definitely not if it's just some random former EFB.

highfarfast 01-24-2020 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by JonSnow (Post 2963528)
I believe they can remotely wipe all the company apps from iPads. Like they did with the old CCI. Then you just need to remove AA Mobile Device Management profile and it’s all yours.

I've heard they have to be sent back first, for whatever reason, and then sent back to you. I thought this was to remove all the company stuff but maybe there's more to it.

But seriously 01-24-2020 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2963537)
I've heard they have to be sent back first, for whatever reason, and then sent back to you. I thought this was to remove all the company stuff but maybe there's more to it.

this is what I was told last time I was down at the Mothership. It’s been a few months though, so things may have changed.

UncreativeUser 01-24-2020 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by f16jetmech (Post 2962239)
Inside info says January 27th to order them



Your insider credit blitz is spot on! Just saw the HI6 for the orders beginning on the 27th.


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uavking 01-27-2020 07:14 AM

New EFB ordering is open. Check your CCI messages for instructions, an FAQ, and order link. An order link icon was pushed to your existing EFB as well; "Order ENY iPad."

BigZ 01-28-2020 08:48 AM

Looks like the new iPads will come with the Pivot case. So much for the landscape vs portrait holy war

UncreativeUser 01-28-2020 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2965995)
Looks like the new iPads will come with the Pivot case. So much for the landscape vs portrait holy war



Lol that’s funny!

I’ve never used the pivot case I know Delta uses them, do they not rotate to landscape or something?


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