1.4%
 

Enjoy hanging out for the flow. :D

Looks like I’ll be able to afford to buy my old company iPad now!

Great, what did I miss now? Is that our profit sharing? If it is, the Delta employees must be laughing at us all the way to the bank.

Delta pilots have a nice bonus. But I’m almost positive endeavor pilots get nothing. Maybe if AA didn’t share with their wholly owns the AA pilots would get more. I’ll take something over nothing at eagle. But I’d be ****ed as an AA pilot.

How much smaller would the AA profit sharing be if they had to pay all 5,000 WO pilots endeavor wages? Quite a bit. AAG's entire net income is smaller than DL's profit sharing slice.

9E pilots don't get profit sharing. But hey, if you guys are getting 1.4% of your wages from last year... yeah, I'll stick with my $63/hr as an FO here.

Well, all I can really say is enjoy that GUARANTEED INTERVIEW. Envoy guys can hang out and chill as they wait for their number to come up. Plus a profit sharing bonus that you guys don't get to boot.

Taking a look at the year 4 FO payscale (which I imagine would be hard to hit at Envoy due to forced upgrades), at min guarantee, a guy at Endeavor would make $6,300 more in a year than an Envoy guy. How is getting a profit-sharing bonus as an FO gonna outweigh that? You either entirely missed that poster's point, or (my guess), are continuing to live in some alternate reality.

And if you get in at Delta, it's already been proven how much more their pilots make with Delta's profit sharing over American's.

Forgive hilm he just an envoy scum recruiter

Envoy guys can hang out and chill for seven to nine years while we at 9E are getting hired at majors three to five years after DOH. Most folks at 9E aren't here for the DGI. It's a tool, not a promise. Would I recommend 9E right now? Probably not. Would I recommend it over Envoy? Absolutely.

​​​I'll skip the $700 profit sharing check in favor of, y'know, wages. Thanks.

Please excuse Spooge. He’s the resident dumbass who brags about firing off knuckle children to videos of the 175.

Why does everyone think we don't put in apps to other places? Also, we're upgrading by year 2 or year 3 at the max as a new hire. Last I checked upgrading at Endeavor has been pretty difficult. Flow is a tool here too, but for people to assume nobody applies is foolish.

Congrats on trading your career progression for higher wages and better work rules, no wonder why Delta won't go for its own group. I'd rather be at a place thats above average and still gets me out the door faster. Until you guys handle those propel pilots, I'd rather be here over Endeavor.

i understand you not one of those year 4 persons getting picked up.

Relax, dudes. I'm just calling out Kooj on his bull****.

That being said, that $63/hr is year 3 pay, not year 4.

At envoy and most other places, they’re on capt pay by year 3. Is there a regional besides edv that has a 3+ year upgrade? Expressjet maybe?

ExpressJet is under 2 years now.

that’s because they all came here in the last couple of years.

“The Envoy” aka “XJT Refugee Camp”