While I agree Envoy pilot group has had pay and benefits eroded and flowing 20 a month was not worth the cost, it will likely be WAY past the next contract negotiations when Envoy or any other regional has problems with filling seats again. Yes, just like every down turn there will be pilots leave the market, and there will pilots retiring that eventually have to be replaced, but this “market correction” has done a lot to fix the pilot shortage for quite a few years to come.

Interesting that republic for aa is back in ord and today republic announces 40 percent company wide possible staffing reduction.

Not sure on numbers but Republic flies for all three so they could be seeing a large reduction for United and Delta which would require a reduction even if AA flying was minimally affected. And just because they are in ORD, no one REALLY knows how much AA flying they’re doing.

all good points. Thank you.

Republic is huge in ORD. Seen the stinger lately? YX tails all the way down the alley. They're 40% of the 175 traffic right now. Maybe gearing up to take over when we furlough or something.

I dont know, seems like a stretch to me. Envoy has what, 30 more planes coming with the 20 from Compass and 10-11 still sitting in Brazil? The bid seems to be placing a lot of OCL's.

Perhaps its just a coincidence or AA is throwing them a bone because they have lost flying with the other carriers. I dont know, just spitballing here, you could be totally right as well.

I genuinely have no idea, but I know my reaction was anxiety after having watched Republic kick Envoy out of NYC over the course of 6 months. Envoy had flushed 2-300 FO's down the NFE toilet in the classes leading up to this, too.

At least we'll always have DFW... right?

Envoy is a cancer to aag.
envoy is at the bottom of every aag list for flight assignments.
remember republic pays more for its pilots and aag covers the cost us a 6 percent guaranteed profit margin for republic.
you know how stupid aag and aa senior management are, they are talking about putting the IFE's back into to aircraft.

It’s been that way ever since dougie took over.

Yeah I suppose I could see getting nervous as well, forgot all about the NYC stunt and as far as DFW goes, nothing is off the table.
AAG owns 30% or so of Republic so they are not going to just let them die or languish. In terms of how we rank on the totem poll, we are the bottom but that is because we are cheap and a good backup plan if everything else goes south. Given we dont have to show a profit so to speak and that our budget is set in advance by AAG, we can cover things others won't. I still think it sucks, sure would be nice to have a decent bid packet once in awhile, especially given we are typically doing very well by all the metrics that matter.
Well as expected, DP's summer plan didn't work out very well and I would hope his time as CEO is coming to a close. Not that the next person in line wouldn't be the same way, but at least DP would be gone.