Thanks for the help guys, really put it into perspective that all who left made the right choice regardless of money owed. Keep telling yourself that fulfilling lopsided contracts is honorable. I bought out of a bad deal and so will my buddies.

I wish you all prosperous careers and happy lives.

afaik nothing in my contract that says I have to help the company collect on their contracts. Might be prudent to show the DEC contract to a labor attorney and get their ideas on how to exit strategically BEFORE you quit.

Well reading comprehension matters. It was called a “Retention Bonus” not just a no strings bonus. So there’s nothing lopsided about it. It was completely voluntary. No sense in demonizing the company over it. Same with speeding tickets; go ahead and speed, just don’t demonize the police when they pull you over.


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Recovery of the money would keep them flying for another hour and 23 minutes.

Signing bonuses are not unique to Envoy or the airlines. If a repayment clause is included up front you have very little legal wiggle room if they enforce it. Best option is to consult a lawyer.

So if it benefits the Company said pilot could have requested to be let out of the contract citing the additional training and administrative cost for keeping that slot filled by him vs waiving the company rights. I know - logic - too much to ask in this industry.

They still selling “The Flow”? Is it still 5.5 years?

If it teaches you that SIGNING lopsided contracts is STUPID, then it probably was a very valuable experience for you, well worth the cost.

You might want to ask THkooj about this. Envoy/AA 's cheerleader.

If you ask him, there is something in the works, and it is actually closer to 4 years now.