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Moonwolf 02-13-2015 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1824924)
The video maybe put together better but their 3rd class morals and 2 faced ways outshine everyone... Not long ago in CHO, I overheard 2 PSA guys talking and one actually said he hoped Air Whiskey to go under so he could be based dca, take their planes and upgrade faster.... Effin punk....

That's funny I say the same thing about PSA. Except I don't need their planes, bases or pay rates.

EMBFlyer 02-13-2015 07:37 AM

Is anyone else very annoyed by the flight instructor that couldn't be bothered to put his clip-on tie on straight?

Luv2Rotate 02-13-2015 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1824931)
There are dozens of negative pilots from every airline on this forum alone.

Do you want to be judged by the worst person at your company? Then don't judge others in the same manner.

I am not judging, we've seen first hand what PSA did to EAGLE. Then I heard these 2 PSA jabroni's wishing ill will onto AW... I certainly did not just sit there and say nothing... I told them exactly what I thought of that comment and the pilot group who voted yes... Was I being a Richard? Probably.

CLT Guy 02-13-2015 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1824940)
I am not judging, we've seen first hand what PSA did to EAGLE. Then I heard these 2 PSA jabroni's wishing ill will onto AW... I certainly did not just sit there and say nothing... I told them exactly what I thought of that comment and the pilot group who voted yes... Was I being a Richard? Probably.

So, by saying "third class morals and two faced ways", you are not judging all PSA pilots?

And, PSA did not do it to Eagle, AAG did. PSA voted NO just as many times as Eagle. The only thing that the PSA pilots did was realize that if they voted no, they would be punished for it. The Eagle pilots were slower to realize this. PSA and Eagle were both told that if they did not vote YES, that they would cease to exist. PSA believed it, and Eagle did not.

lakehouse 02-13-2015 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by CLT Guy (Post 1824945)
So, by saying "third class morals and two faced ways", you are not judging all PSA pilots?

And, PSA did not do it to Eagle, AAG did. PSA voted NO just as many times as Eagle. The only thing that the PSA pilots did was realize that if they voted no, they would be punished for it. The Eagle pilots were slower to realize this. PSA and Eagle were both told that if they did not vote YES, that they would cease to exist. PSA believed it, and Eagle did not.

Voted no when? A few years ago when you took all the jets that you were supposed to split with pdt or this time when you guys walked from an industry wide ffd committee and pact to stop the whipsaw? Hey everyone on property when you sailed the industry down the toilet is a captain now. High fives all around!!!'

UnderPar 02-13-2015 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1824840)

LOL @ the FO talking about with the 175 coming on-line, it means faster upgrades ... except for the fact they are reducing the fleet overall with the 700's to PSA, and some 145's being parked, and shifted to XJT and TSA. How exactly does that math work out?

Do not forget to include PDT for a few of those 145 transfers.

RJ Pilot 02-13-2015 08:23 AM

When is envoy giving those CRJs to PSA?

GoodLuck!

tom11011 02-13-2015 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1824940)
I am not judging, we've seen first hand what PSA did to EAGLE. Then I heard these 2 PSA jabroni's wishing ill will onto AW... I certainly did not just sit there and say nothing... I told them exactly what I thought of that comment and the pilot group who voted yes... Was I being a Richard? Probably.

You're lying, you don't have the balls. What were their names?

PilotCrusader 02-13-2015 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1824965)
Voted no when? A few years ago when you took all the jets that you were supposed to split with pdt or this time when you guys walked from an industry wide ffd committee and pact to stop the whipsaw? Hey everyone on property when you sailed the industry down the toilet is a captain now. High fives all around!!!'

PSA did say no to a ridiculous offer that eventually went to Mesa, for a few airplanes.
The biggest slap in the face from PSA to Envoy, and the industry in general, is when they signed a pact to NOT take concessions, and then turned around and took concessions. It was all quickly gagged and brushed under the table by the evil jerks at ALPA National, but it's remnants are there as proof.

All this being said, I think we all know what PSA did is scumbaggery. If I recall reading on here, CLT guy is a youngin' with not much time in the industry. He comes off as one of those entitled spoiled rotten rich kid ATP Flight School types. I would just ignore him: his precious PSA can do no wrong and he NEEDS FOs underneath him.

Back on topic, which is me actually bashing my own airline for reducing themselves to a "PSA-like" level: The video is riddled with lies. Flat out lies. The flow is crud, upgrade times are going up and will continue to do so for a while, the fleet is reducing, and AAG management continues to crap on us every chance they can get. Our local management is the most inept bunch I have seen in 24 years.

I had hoped they would step up recruiting on an honest level. Xjet stepped it up by calling out Mesa and their phone interviews, which is at least valid. This is just a snowjob.

pagey 02-13-2015 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1824974)
PSA did say no to a ridiculous offer that eventually went to Mesa, for a few airplanes.
The biggest slap in the face from PSA to Envoy, and the industry in general, is when they signed a pact to NOT take concessions, and then turned around and took concessions. It was all quickly gagged and brushed under the table by the evil jerks at ALPA National, but it's remnants are there as proof.

Didn't Eagle sign the same document?


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