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lakehouse 02-22-2015 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 1829393)
"Hey guys, I know we pretty much gutted you, ruined many careers, and forced you into a sad place, but for the remaining you can get premium pay, basically make some money before you are let go" - love aa mgmt.

This happened at endevour, let's hope we follow them and not comair.

snippercr 02-22-2015 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1829397)
I think rj pilot is headed to Kai tak this week. So it might be a little while before he gets back.

Sweet! That's a crazy approach, he will need some good luck!

I heard he was going to be in my neck of the woods, captaining his mighty gee five to Chicago's Meigs field.

Bob Loblaw 02-22-2015 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by SpreadEagle (Post 1829482)
Don't shed to many tears for me... I'm one of the eightyish or so guys that have the best job in this envoyable organization... I've been killing it.

You're a lav service tech?

Steve McCroskey 02-22-2015 10:18 AM

^ haha steady pay and no scheduling issues

scudrunner13 02-23-2015 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1829140)
Just my .02 cents: I see two options here, since you're already hired there:

1. Take the money, keep building your time, and get out asap.

2. Take the money, keep building your time, stop whining and wait to flow.

Envoy is clearly not a good place to be, so if they are making your life sooo miserable, no seniority is worth the wrinkles on your face nor the shortened life span! There's a ton of regionals out there with <1 year upgrades and better QOL that will be happy to hire you on the spot.

Which regionals have less than a 1 year upgrade, ive been looking at everyone for the last 2 months trying to figure out where to go next...

PC LOADLETTER 02-24-2015 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 1830599)
Which regionals have less than a 1 year upgrade, ive been looking at everyone for the last 2 months trying to figure out where to go next...

PSA if you want to upgrade in 6 months and be on the worst reserve in the industry for the forseeable future

boiler07 02-24-2015 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by PC LOADLETTER (Post 1830800)
PSA if you want to upgrade in 6 months and be on the worst reserve in the industry for the forseeable future

Not anymore. That's yesterdays news.

pagey 02-24-2015 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by boiler07 (Post 1831161)
Not anymore. That's yesterdays news.

Reserve here is absolutely terrible, and a "short upgrade" CA will certainly be on reserve for a while......A loooong while.

I don't know anything about anyone else's reserve system but it cannot be worse than ours. Beyond terrible into "drain the life out of you(and your family)" bad.

I speak from experience....lots and lots of experience.

PilotCrusader 02-24-2015 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1831198)
Reserve here is absolutely terrible, and a "short upgrade" CA will certainly be on reserve for a while......A loooong while.

I don't know anything about anyone else's reserve system but it cannot be worse than ours. Beyond terrible into "drain the life out of you(and your family)" bad.


I speak from experience....lots and lots of experience.

We have had FOs and CAs on reserve for over 3 years now. I think reserve anywhere is a prison sentence.

Boomer 02-24-2015 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1829650)
This happened at endevour, let's hope we follow them and not comair.

If Delta waited a year to pull the plug on Comair it may have turned out much different.

Pinnacle guys getting $20,000 a year retention bonuses? Even the bean counters at Delta could see that Comair wasn't that expensive.


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