I'm honestly not sure if you're just trolling or if you're actually incapable of understanding what has been said here several times. Our ACARS reports OOOI times automatically. We do not call our times on our own.

Mesa aircraft have ACARS but doesn't have a printer. Thus the need to call for clearance, etc.

Huh, can they not read acars or is it just not set up to receive the clearance?

You have to be trolling right now....

Sky,

What is so f'ing hard to understand here? To be honest, you sound like someone that is not even an airline pilot. Are you having fun playing flight simulator on your sweet setup in the garage? Do you not understand that airlines use different services? Here is the thing, Mesa HAS ACARS that reports OOOI times in their airplanes. There are NO magic IN/OUT numbers being called in. They DO NOT currently have
the ability to receive PDC, ATIS, or IN RANGE (thus the need to call for a gate, clearance and listen to the ridiculously long ATIS). Try getting a clearance in IAD sometime, numerous airlines are calling nonstop. I don't know if you work for envoy. If so, then you have everything in your little Universal FMS magic box. It is absolutely crazy that other regional airlines do not have the wonderful features envoy has. Sorry to ruin you conspiracy theory against the Devil's airline. Oh and by the way, this is not new to DFW.

Ok....let's take a little look back at the history of the illustrious "B" terminal in DFW. A little over two years should do it...around Valentines day 2013. A little company called Expressjet moved 11 CRJ 200s into the Eagle's nest, so to say. Maintenance was a huge issues initially, I believe they did not even have a spare aircraft in the beginning. They had the same issues that Mesa is facing. There were tons of delayed or cancelled flights. Everyone complained about how horrible the operation was, even the outstations. Envoy was going to get that flying back....over two years later, it looks like they righted their ship. Oh well, keep letting Mesa get under your skin. Try to get some sleep.

Out of curiosity, what triggers your out time at Mesa? My understanding is that some ACARS trigger upon door closure. For us it is wheel movement. Which is why we ask for 10 and hold.

Easy there, Captain happy.

The difference between Mesa and Xjet is that they awarded MESA flying to Envoy in the summer. We only covered some flights for Xjet, no as much as we are covering for Mesa.

Mesa is growing too fast for the amount of pilots out there. Look at RAH imploding now after several RFP awards, they where growing slowly compared to Mesa.

It's just a matter of time. Once the fast upgrade illusion is gone at Mesa, it will happen the same its happening to RAH. PSA is in another though spot with a huge training bubble, can't keep up with the growing.

Where did the rumor start that PSA isn't keeping up with the airplanes? We are FAT on FOs at the moment. Aka... We have more pilots than planes.

They did not award you Mesa flying, Mesa REQUESTED a change to our schedule so our airplanes could have a more realistic schedule with more touch time with maintenance, and to allow us to have additional spares in DFW. This required a temporary reduction in our flying. We already have two of our seven brand new CRJ900's in Dallas flying. Another couple of months we will have even more flying than before in Dallas, with additional spare airplanes.
In the US Airways system, we had in-range with Acars, only thing we never had was ATIS and PDC over ACARS. Puzzles me why during this merger, they dumped the way Airways did things, and went with a more antiquated system that American uses? Well, I guess the larger pilot group always wins out...

They are drawn to a scandal that's why...everyone is stealing "their" planes, can't staff them, and they are getting all of the flow, all of it I tell you. A lot of one-sided half truths in their rumors. I have no problem with Envoy being prideful...Lord knows I am at PDT...but don't be full of shat either.

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So it wasn't AAG that said Mesa couldn't accomplish the flying they agreed to, it was Mesa that said they couldn't accomplish the flying they agreed to.

Got it.

You have to admit, when the woman from sales told Parker in the townhall meeting that her experiences with Mesa and TSA were "godawful", it was pretty humorous.

You have more FOs than airplanes.

And we aren't canceling flights due to staffing. New CAs are hitting the line every month. 4 from my class have already started or are finished with upgrade training.

Brand new 900s? I thought they were purchased from Alitalia?

Antiquated? You don't hear Envoy making in range calls do you? Yeah. No. Our ACARs handles that, the PDC, and the weather. Heck our turboprops did that.

Brand new, 952LR, and 953LR.
The Alitalia ones have been on the line for quite some time.

Well cool! Hopefully they solve the maintenance issues!

Ah, so they just reserve the antiquated stuff for the contractors doing their flying.

I said training bubble. I did not say keeping up with the planes. I said keeping up with the training, two different things.

You forgot printers with paper!!!! PSA doesn't use printer, they are deactivating ENY CRJ Printers...but hey now they have wifi for the pax.

I wish you guys would take back these crappy 600-607LRs back from delters.

As I understand it, Delta owns those outright.

Those are at Endeavor, from Mesaba... we call them the Freedom 5.

Weird options too, dual HF radios, dual radar tuning heads, extra closets, yet no extra FA jumpseat up front. I'd be fine if I never flew them again but they seem to show up at my gate quite often.

Doesn't it seem reasonable that they watered down the lines if they are heavy on pilots. Seems like the other option would be to consolidate the lines and layoff the excess pilots. I am sure the Envoy mgmt is doing the best they can with what they have to work with. I doubt they have control over how many overall block hours they get.

At the expense of sounding harsh, is a senior Envoy captain that's about to flow upset he got a 72 hour line instead of 92 so the guy at the bottom could keep his job?

Our management has told us they are experimenting with our lines and staffing to show AAG that we have the warm bodies for additional block hours. Yet when the lines are published we get all 4 day trips, less than guarantee and 11 day off lines. They need to fix the lies not lie more.

I will say however, we will be hearing soon about several thousand more block hours from AAG for September from others who cannot staff it.

I understand, it just seems like they would hesitate paying half the guys over guarantee if the other half aren't even flying half of guarantee. Sounds like they leveled everybody until the E jets show and they need them, more than a cultural change, hopefully.

yes........

The problem isn't necessarily a 72 hour line. I'm fine with that. The problem is a 72 hr line with 11 days off non commutable on both ends instead of 15-19 off and commutable like they use to be. Now we end up with like 7days off a month and min pay.

Honestly, a junior pilot here would be better off getting furloughed. They have no future here, may as well get out and move on early before they waste too much time here like the rest of us.

[QUOTE=PilotCrusader;1939537]Well cool! Hopefully they solve the maintenance issues![/QU

All the new CRJ's coming off the line are built on a Friday afternoon before a holiday weekend.

I'm sure they asked us at AWAC to cover that! We are maxed out covering PSA flying!

Yea and PSA is maxed out covering Mesa's flying, and Mesa is maxed out covering Eagle's flying, And Eagle is about to be maxed out covering RAH flying.

Haha good one.

Our October departures are considerably higher than the previous four years I've been here.

And AWAC guys laugh all the way to the bank! We suffer from old polished turd syndrome but the paycheck is nice!

Well I'am still an FO, had a real job before this "oppturnity". Still haven't scene a pay scale that would put a smile on an FO's face.

But if your a CEO trying to sell a career at your regional...
"It's an exciting time to be at ABC airlines..."

Selling a turd seems to be as much as an art as polishing one.

Next time yo momma speaks out like dat I slap her in da mouth

Didn't used to be that way. Stuff got fixed. Now they're making us like every other bottom feeding regional and allowing planes to fly the full limit of MEL's before repairing.

I don't think AWAC is doing any laughing especially with a 2 year life line.

Well when your managers and regulators are ex Mesa and seem dead set on making us into them, that's a tough stream to paddle "up."