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Doug Parker State of the Airline-Envoy
Sam is here speaking:
Sam: Envoy has more pilots right now even as we are transfering aircraft to other carriers who cannot staff them (and with the experience of envoy pilots). Also on a conference call there was talk about parked regional hauls. Doug defers to Isom Isom: Thank you for your effort to attract pilots. There is no better place to be than envoy. The story is getting out there. Kenji: Envoy is getting 40 175s. Need to balance aircraft arrival, attrition and recruitment. Aircraft that are being parked are 140s because they are older. The parked aircraft are NOT "new" aircraft. [Thanks for speaking Sam!] |
You should include the part about Mesa
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Best part was the woman from sales telling parker that tsa and mesa are god awful.
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Can someone post a link to the call transcript?
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
(Post 1937678)
Can someone post a link to the call transcript?
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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
(Post 1937679)
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=117098&p=irol-IRHome&anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=investorrela tions
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Originally Posted by shfo
(Post 1937671)
Best part was the woman from sales telling parker that tsa and mesa are god awful.
But yes, other than that, TSA can't seem to figure out how to do MX on an airplane they already have. |
Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
(Post 1937694)
Oops sorry. Main page of jetnet
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 1937706)
TSA isn't great but it doesn't help that they are filling up a 145 in LGA. I guess they conveniently forgot that Eny didn't put their 145s there. Also, TSA doesn't get the luxury of having AA do the W/B so showing up 3 minutes from departure time asking if we had our closeout doesn't work. No. We don't. Do you have a bag sheet?
But yes, other than that, TSA can't seem to figure out how to do MX on an airplane they already have. Oh wait, we get them back after 20-24 months? |
Originally Posted by snippercr
(Post 1937709)
We know. Trust us. We are happy you are getting at least one of the "TSA Ten" as we like to call them. Enjoy your "Extreme" landings.
Oh wait, we get them back after 20-24 months? |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 1937716)
Which is funny because TSA mx chief said the planes you gave us last time and this time had pages of discrepancies when they inspected them once they arrived. Lots of finger pointing on both sides.
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Originally Posted by bonesbrigade
(Post 1937724)
Relax guys... I've jumpseated on both TSA and ENY's 145s and they are both incredibly beat to absolute heII. That's like saying your turd stinks worse than mine.
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Originally Posted by bonesbrigade
(Post 1937724)
Relax guys... I've jumpseated on both TSA and ENY's 145s and they are both incredibly beat to absolute heII. That's like saying your turd stinks worse than mine.
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Why did she say TSA and Mesa are god awful??
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Originally Posted by snippercr
(Post 1937709)
We know. Trust us. We are happy you are getting at least one of the "TSA Ten" as we like to call them. Enjoy your "Extreme" landings.
Oh wait, we get them back after 20-24 months? |
You guys are really arguing over whose 15? year old airplanes are worse?
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Yeah. Envoy is the place to be. And if you believe that I have some stock in Enron I will sell you.
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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
(Post 1937762)
You guys are really arguing over whose 15? year old airplanes are worse?
Snippy was still in middle school when all that took place. Good Luck! |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1937838)
LOL'd. They were/are trully pos. Tail#600BK-610AE?
Snippy was still in middle school when all that took place. Good Luck! |
Originally Posted by shfo
(Post 1937671)
Best part was the woman from sales telling parker that tsa and mesa are god awful.
How would someone from Sales have any exposure to Mesa or TSA? |
Doug Parker State of the Airline-Envoy
Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
(Post 1937645)
Sam is here speaking:
Sam: Envoy has more pilots right now even as we are transfering aircraft to other carriers who cannot staff them (and with the experience of envoy pilots). Also on a conference call there was talk about parked regional hauls. Doug defers to Isom Isom: Thank you for your effort to attract pilots. There is no better place to be than envoy. The story is getting out there. Kenji: Envoy is getting 40 175s. Need to balance aircraft arrival, attrition and recruitment. Aircraft that are being parked are 140s because they are older. The parked aircraft are NOT "new" aircraft. [Thanks for speaking Sam!] He said There is no better place to be than envoy, PSA, or Piedmont. The story is getting out there. Why spin it? You guys have such selective hearing. Your like my teenager or 4 yr old. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Blackwing
(Post 1937866)
How would someone from Sales have any exposure to Mesa or TSA?
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
(Post 1937882)
She had been on 4 Mesa flights in the last 30 days that were either cancelled or more than 3 hours late.
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
(Post 1937882)
She had been on 4 Mesa flights in the last 30 days that were either cancelled or more than 3 hours late.
It is silly that Envoy is one of the few regionals able to staff yet it's losing airframes to other regionals. Go figure. |
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 1937889)
Out of DFW? Try catching a ride out of Dulles, Houston, or Phoenix. The Dallas problems are well documented.
It is silly that Envoy is one of the few regionals able to staff yet it's losing airframes to other regionals. Go figure. It is all about the money and the cost of doing business. They would rather move the flying around even though there are some current struggles in order to save a lot of money. |
Of course, it's the whipsaw at work and it sucks.
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They don't save any money. It is called placating to Wall Street dip shi +s.
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
(Post 1937882)
She had been on 4 Mesa flights in the last 30 days that were either cancelled or more than 3 hours late.
That's funny right there. |
Originally Posted by IceManCRJ
(Post 1937868)
He said There is no better place to be than envoy, PSA, or Piedmont. The story is getting out there.
Why spin it? You guys have such selective hearing. Your like my teenager or 4 yr old. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not trying to spin anything and sorry for the omission. |
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Originally Posted by Rmk1991
(Post 1937736)
Why did she say TSA and Mesa are god awful??
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Originally Posted by Rmk1991
(Post 1937736)
Why did she say TSA and Mesa are god awful??
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Originally Posted by sublime259
(Post 1937956)
Um, because they are???
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Yea if you guys want to use real information from accurate sources then here is the scoop. For the month of June Envoy had a CF of 94.98%, Mesa had 94.67 and TSA had a 94.25% completion factor. As far as "on time percentage" Envoy was on time 73.90%, Mesa 69.68%, and TSA was on time 60.29%.
So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better. So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again? http://www.flightstats.com/go/Stats/...anceReports.do |
Originally Posted by BE24pilot
(Post 1937952)
Do you have a minuet marker form the recording. I missed this part when I listened the first time.
If not a "minuet", would a waltz be okay? |
Well from a strictly personal experience, I was scheduled to DH on TSA one day out of LGA and literally every single outbound flight that TSA had that day was cancelled. The departure board tends to show TSA cancellations rather frequently as well. As for Mesa, anytime I fly through DFW I witness the carnage of an endless string of angry passengers first-hand.
So no, my opinion isn't from crew room gossip. The performance that I've witnessed for AAG has been horrendous. |
Originally Posted by ScottyDo
(Post 1938006)
Yea if you guys want to use real information from accurate sources then here is the scoop. For the month of June Envoy had a CF of 94.98%, Mesa had 94.67 and TSA had a 94.25% completion factor. As far as "on time percentage" Envoy was on time 73.90%, Mesa 69.68%, and TSA was on time 60.29%.
So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better. So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again? Airline Performance Reports |
Originally Posted by ScottyDo
(Post 1938006)
Yea if you guys want to use real information from accurate sources then here is the scoop. For the month of June Envoy had a CF of 94.98%, Mesa had 94.67 and TSA had a 94.25% completion factor. As far as "on time percentage" Envoy was on time 73.90%, Mesa 69.68%, and TSA was on time 60.29%.
So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better. So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again? Airline Performance Reports The sad part is that a certain major airline is willing to let performance suffer in order to perpetuate the whipsaw by taking planes away from a certain regional and giving the planes to worse performing regionals. Quality doesn't matter as long as it's CHEAP. |
Originally Posted by Blackwing
(Post 1938004)
And your source of information is what exactly? Crew room gossip and internet chat forums?
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Originally Posted by sublime259
(Post 1938031)
Well from a strictly personal experience, I was scheduled to DH on TSA one day out of LGA and literally every single outbound flight that TSA had that day was cancelled. The departure board tends to show TSA cancellations rather frequently as well. As for Mesa, anytime I fly through DFW I witness the carnage of an endless string of angry passengers first-hand.
So no, my opinion isn't from crew room gossip. The performance that I've witnessed for AAG has been horrendous. |
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