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stanthecaddy 03-17-2016 12:16 AM
They are estimating roughly 300 captains per year will flow to AA

Isn't this number supposed to drop down to more like less than 100 per year soon? Anyone know?

SkylineAviation 03-17-2016 04:37 AM
Originally Posted by stanthecaddy (Post 2090473)
They are estimating roughly 300 captains per year will flow to AA

Isn't this number supposed to drop down to more like less than 100 per year soon? Anyone know?
No, the flow never drops to 100 per year unless AA were to only hire 200 in a year.

It's roughly 50% of each new hire class for at least the current flow group and then the protected pilot group upon getting the 40th E175. This in itself will last years, assuming they do as it's written and advertised.

HighFlight 03-17-2016 06:09 AM
That's today, right? Isn't that supposed to jump to between 500-700 per year by 2020?

Originally Posted by stanthecaddy (Post 2090473)
They are estimating roughly 300 captains per year will flow to AA

Isn't this number supposed to drop down to more like less than 100 per year soon? Anyone know?

ORDinary 03-17-2016 06:33 AM
Originally Posted by Metering (Post 2090164)
I'll save you guys the trouble of calling back:

They are hiring in to the CRJ7 (ord) and the E175 (dfw)

They are estimating roughly 300 captains per year will flow to AA

Roughly another 150 pilots leaves to other carriers per year.

With currently 1800 people on property that translates to about 6 years for flow to AA

1.5 years projected reserve.

2.5 years to upgrade

The bonus is handed to you on date of hire in one lump sum with the taxes already withheld from the check (roughly $10K after taxes)

Is that worth it for you to start at the bottom again? I dunno. Your mileage may vary!
People should be wary of upgrade projections with no basis in reality. Our union performed a much more rigorous calculation and project upgrade time to be 3.5-4 years for new hires. And even that projection assumes a large number of new hires that may not be possible. FYI a new upgrade today spent over 8 years in the right seat.

ORDinary 03-17-2016 06:34 AM
Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2090547)
That's today, right? Isn't that supposed to jump to between 500-700 per year by 2020?
We'll never flow 500-700. We'll get a max of 50% of new hire classes.


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