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havick206 05-01-2019 01:10 PM

Selections is kinda dumb anyway as everyone is in the pool anyway. It’s just shuffling the deck chairs for no reason. What matters is how many actually goto class not the selections for the waiting pool.

Jungle Jim 05-02-2019 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2093093)
As many of you are aware, Republic is having trouble meeting their flight schedule. You'll see some shifting going on soon that will favor Envoy.

Just out of curiosity, where do your “facts” come from? We have been getting plenty of WO AAG flying lately because it is, in fact, the other way around. I know this because I’ve actually flown plenty of pairings recently comprised solely of former ENY/PDT flying. I know it’s a common rally cry over there that Republic flying is coming back soon, but no sooner than your flow date is getting shorter.

NoValueAviator 05-02-2019 05:00 AM

Republic is rapidly taking over NY, as any NY Republic pilot is quick to tell you, here or at LaGuardia lol

Why that surprises anyone baffles me, Envoy’s 40-50 seat operation has always been the last choice, picking up the leftovers.

Certainly until recently we were carving off some Republic flying in MIA (ostensibly that Republic didn’t want). I dunno if that’s still happening.

Jungle Jim 05-02-2019 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2812739)
Republic is rapidly taking over NY, as any NY Republic pilot is quick to tell you, here or at LaGuardia lol

Why that surprises anyone baffles me, Envoy’s 40-50 seat operation has always been the last choice, picking up the leftovers.

Certainly until recently we were carving off some Republic flying in MIA (ostensibly that Republic didn’t want). I dunno if that’s still happening.

MIA might be the only base we stand to lose some ground in if ENY ever decides to bring the 170 out there. However, a lot of the trip composition out of MIA is comprised of some of the EOW flying, then heading northeast/middle southeast to bounce around doing the Republic bread and butter flying before eventually getting back to MIA. Almost half the trips in MIA are 4-day trips for that reason. By comparison, we don’t have a lot of trips that are longer than 3-day’s in LGA — in fact, LGA pairings are spread almost evenly among 1, 2, and 3 day trips.

NoValueAviator 05-02-2019 05:22 AM

That’s great for you guys, plz poach all our new hires as well.

Varsity 05-08-2019 09:07 AM

Republic: taking envoys flying and pilots since 2016.

MD-11Loader 05-08-2019 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2816417)
Republic: taking envoys flying and pilots since 2016.

Chautauqua started it before then.

buddies8 05-08-2019 10:05 AM

Let envoy pilots dream. Why are they complaining. They got bonuses to the point a new hire making close to 100k and they have flow. Why should they care if republic takes flying away from envoy, they're flowing. So what if republic crews make a lot more than envoy pilots, who cares they have flow. So what if envoy schedules stink and republic is better and so with qol, envoy has flow.
You new what you were getting into as a new hire at envoy, if you did not then you were an idiot, it was on all the forums.
You folks failed to understand one simple thing, that pilot recruiter works for management and for management needs not the pilots best interest.
SKW has tripled its aa feed, mesa being given help by aa, PDT and envoy flying transferred to non w/o.
Your pay and qol stinks as compared to others, so what you whining about, YOU HAVE FLOW.

und2015 05-08-2019 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2816451)
Let envoy pilots dream. Why are they complaining. They got bonuses to the point a new hire making close to 100k and they have flow. Why should they care if republic takes flying away from envoy, they're flowing. So what if republic crews make a lot more than envoy pilots, who cares they have flow. So what if envoy schedules stink and republic is better and so with qol, envoy has flow.
You new what you were getting into as a new hire at envoy, if you did not then you were an idiot, it was on all the forums.
You folks failed to understand one simple thing, that pilot recruiter works for management and for management needs not the pilots best interest.
SKW has tripled its aa feed, mesa being given help by aa, PDT and envoy flying transferred to non w/o.
Your pay and qol stinks as compared to others, so what you whining about, YOU HAVE FLOW.


That was almost as hard to understand as one of Pedro’s emails.

buddies8 05-08-2019 12:15 PM

Welcome to envoy. Those that came for flow got bonuses while the rest did not. Now they're whining, tough shi+. Buyer be ware.


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