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Geeze, with your limited IQ and Grammar, you must be a Mesa Pilot.

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Originally Posted by Hou757 (Post 2665773)

XJTrs remember this Calmwinds guy is a Mesa toll. Please don't engage him. He is like talking to a rubber wall. His comments on other boards are that we are a "Pathetic" airline and that we deserve to just die off.. We are not interested in your "opinions" Calmwinds...

Hou757 is a Xjet troll. So what? I will keep posting my opinions on here as long as Xjet trolls show up on Mesa’s forum. I keep my comments here above board and positive. Unlike you do on other regional boards.

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Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 2665796)

Oh go easy on him.. you remember being 28 years old and knowing everything.

It's the lies and idiotic stuff he posts.

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Originally Posted by Bareair (Post 2665813)

Long time lurker. Very low number of posts.
Unless this contract promises industry leading pay and QOL. Who cares that you are gitting new planes. Especially if these planes mean another company (Go Jet) might disappear, or other companies loose aircraft, and pilots loose jobs. Their are already companies out there that promised what you don’t yet have. So either hold out until you go to UA or hold out for top pay and QOL or move sideways to another regional.
To stoop so low and to undercut other pilot groups is what the industry CEO’s want. As an Union airline it is your duty not to allow anything less.
I hope you endure a future of hate and shunning from EVERY pilot group, and a lifetime of guilt, if you don’t hold out and vote in an ugly contract just because “new planes”.
The regional airlines pilots have endured the whipsaws and low standards long enough. You are in the best position to keep this historic increase in Pay, Benefits and QOL momentum going.
Talk about new airplanes should be last on the list!!!

You have the gall to come on here and talk about GoJet possibly disappearing?? Mention GoJet and "undercutting other pilot groups" in the same breath??? Cry me a river. Did you just crawl out of a hole? GoJet is the company created to undercut the pay and work rules of an ALPA carrier, TSA.
We are the pilot group, both on the CRJ and ERJ side that has been decimated for years because we held the line in contract talks while places like GoJet, Mesa, and others undercut us.
I won't shed a tear if GoJet goes under. Not. One. And all those pilots who lose jobs there will probably be offered jobs here, under a contract that actually pays well and has good work rules, and for a management team that, while we complain about them and make fun of them, has treated us well compared to people like HK.

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Originally Posted by Hou757 (Post 2665833)

It's the lies and idiotic stuff he posts.

We will see. I know we have our bid in for the E175SC’s. So, the bidding isn’t closed to one regional. I suspect Republic and GoJet have theirs in.

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Originally Posted by calmwinds (Post 2665864)

We will see. I know we have our bid in for the E175SC’s. So, the bidding isn’t closed to one regional. I suspect Republic and GoJet have theirs in.

There’s one aspect of the bid that you aren’t considering- pilots. As someone so aptly put it, the rabbit now has the gun.
Most of UALs feeder comes from XJT. That’s a pilot group they have to keep happy or the system will collapse. I do think the “shot over the bow” was when Kalitta started poaching LASA pilots. And not just a few. So far about 15% of our pilot group gone just like that and they are coming back for more. UAL could lose the other groups without missing a beat, except perhaps TSA. But TSA and the entire TSH is more messed up than we are.
UAL has promised these airframes to XJT if we uphold our part and approve the forthcoming TA. If UAL reneges their 50 seat feed will probably collapse. As much as they hate the 50 seat it’s what they have and what they have to live with for the foreseeable future under scope.

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Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2665874)

LOL.. You really believe you have United by the balls? Vote no on this coming TA and find out who is really holding the cards..:)

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Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2665912)

LOL.. You really believe you have United by the balls? Vote no on this coming TA and find out who is really holding the cards..:)

No, not that much. But yeah, they do need the 50 seat feed. Without it larger airplanes that are more expensive per leg get very, very expensive no matter what the advantage they may have in CASM. UAL learned this painful lesson during the SARS outbreak when 747-400’s and 777’s were flying around empty. It crushed UALs bottom line.
So would UAL survive without us? Sure. But XJT imploding right now would be a huge whack on their bottom line, especially as they are trying to expand service. Losing Mesa or GoJet? Wouldn’t be a blip on their screen.

Fight the good fight Xjet, unfortunately management will probably use a Mesa contract as a guide. Too bad it's another Alpa carrier bringing the bar down. Hopefully Xjet takes that same bar and moves it over Republic/Endeavor.

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Originally Posted by immelmann (Post 2665953)

Nope. Financial part of the contract is already done. It was sent back once by the MEC to be redone. About a week later it was approved by the MEC.
It has been clear from day 1, this would not be a concessionary contract and that anything less would probably result in ERJs (owned by UAL I might add), being parked.