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chrisreedrules 09-01-2018 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2665734)
A different subject, but 2 year upgrades scare the bejeebers out of me. Yeah, this is an easy job. Until it isn't. At two years you probably don't know what you don't know. And you're probably flying with an FO who really doesn't know what he doesn't know.
Personally, I'd like to see upgrades stabilize at about four years.

It is what is happening at most other regionals right now. It’s just a matter of time... I waited 3 years to upgrade. I was more than ready, but I do feel like it is more of a bare minimum. So many issues arise from having young/inexperienced CAs out flying the line with even younger and less experienced FOs. Crazy/scary times were in.

andili61 09-01-2018 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2666439)
It is what is happening at most other regionals right now. It’s just a matter of time... I waited 3 years to upgrade. I was more than ready, but I do feel like it is more of a bare minimum. So many issues arise from having young/inexperienced CAs out flying the line with even younger and less experienced FOs. Crazy/scary times were in.

Most "experience" captains at XJT, I may say the top 20%, upgraded 6 months, year or less than 2 years after hired. I even flew with captains that were ATR FO's and went to ERJ jet captain directly. Was that scary back then? Many of them think is scary now that this short upgrades occur. However, many forget this fact. Nonetheless, that was the way many moons ago.

PhantomHawk 09-01-2018 10:38 AM

Yes. It was scary then, too.

Blackhawk 09-01-2018 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by andili61 (Post 2666479)
Most "experience" captains at XJT, I may say the top 20%, upgraded 6 months, year or less than 2 years after hired. I even flew with captains that were ATR FO's and went to ERJ jet captain directly. Was that scary back then? Many of them think is scary now that this short upgrades occur. However, many forget this fact. Nonetheless, that was the way many moons ago.

I didn’t forget it at all. I starkly remember it. Upgraded on the ATR in 18 months and I didn’t know what I didn’t know. Fortunately that was just a really big 172 with 2 engines cruising around below the flight levels. Made some mistakes, learned some things. But if you look over accidents you will also see some who paid the ultimate price for their lack of experience. Had an Army buddy killed on his first flight as a airline captain.
Even today I make mistakes. Every. Leg. But I’ve also gotten to the point where I recognize my short comings and continuously try to improve.

Fleet Warp 09-01-2018 11:51 AM

The key to be an regional airline captain: every flight like your single pilot and be pleasantly surprised when your FO actually understands what they're doing

BlueRaiderAV8R 09-01-2018 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Fleet Warp (Post 2666519)
The key to be an regional airline captain: every flight like your single pilot and be pleasantly surprised when your FO actually understands what they're doing



What world do you live in? At XJT I exhibit excellent CRM with my CA’s


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