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PhantomHawk 12-04-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2718999)
Probably a while. But the base is pretty small so you never know.

With all due respect, you should maybe refrain from answering questions about the company you no longer work for, especially regarding the side of the operation you know next to nothing about. To answer the question CORRECTLY, a new hire can expect to be ASSIGNED CLE straight out of new-hire class. The two most junior people on the list got assigned there. Date of hire 9-10-2018.

You know nothing, Jon Snow. The next ACMI question that comes up, it’s all you.

Fallout15 12-04-2018 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2719043)
With all due respect, you should maybe refrain from answering questions about the company you no longer work for, especially regarding the side of the operation you know next to nothing about. To answer the question CORRECTLY, a new hire can expect to be ASSIGNED CLE straight out of new-hire class. The two most junior people on the list got assigned there. Date of hire 9-10-2018.

You know nothing, Jon Snow. The next ACMI question that comes up, it’s all you.


How long to hold ORD? Reserve ? Available flight time ?

My recruiter said basically no reserve and I could go ORD right out of training....

Blackhawk 12-04-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2719043)
With all due respect, you should maybe refrain from answering questions about the company you no longer work for, especially regarding the side of the operation you know next to nothing about. To answer the question CORRECTLY, a new hire can expect to be ASSIGNED CLE straight out of new-hire class. The two most junior people on the list got assigned there. Date of hire 9-10-2018.

You know nothing, Jon Snow. The next ACMI question that comes up, it’s all you.

Good point, but I did couch it with a “probably”.
I’m rather surprised. Must be quite a bit of attrition.

mkakhsfan 12-04-2018 04:30 PM

Is it likely I can get ewr out of training?

uipilot45x 12-04-2018 04:37 PM

To piggy back on the ORD question. Can one expect ORD out of training for the 145? How long to hold a line?

PhantomHawk 12-04-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by uipilot45x (Post 2719061)
To piggy back on the ORD question. Can one expect ORD out of training for the 145? How long to hold a line?

New hires can easily hold CLE and EWR straight out of training. ORD is possible, but not as likely it would seem. IAH looks like it takes a bit. As far as holding a line in any of these bases, I’m sure a recruiter is on this site. I’m not one.

uipilot45x 12-04-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2719098)
New hires can easily hold CLE and EWR straight out of training. ORD is possible, but not as likely it would seem. IAH looks like it takes a bit. As far as holding a line in any of these bases, I’m sure a recruiter is on this site. I’m not one.



If you had to guess, how long would it take to get to ORD if you couldn’t get it out of training.


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PhantomHawk 12-04-2018 06:25 PM

If I had to guess, I’d say you could hold it out of training. The most junior person who holds it was hired three months ago.

Most junior line holder in ORD was hired Nov 27, 2017.

(This is for ERJ)

Horia 12-05-2018 06:46 AM

Can a person be displaced from their base if a more senior pilot decides to change bases?

PhantomHawk 12-05-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Horia (Post 2719311)
Can a person be displaced from their base if a more senior pilot decides to change bases?

Only in certain cases, like a base closing.

Sos21 12-20-2018 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by J1180 (Post 2649127)
What are the chances of holding Houston out of training?
Not good, but you'll get back here likely in less than a year.

How long are new hire FO's on reserve.
It completely depends on base. My fo today just got down to Iah after about 10 months in ORD. He said he didn't mind the ORD commute and he liked how quickly he gained seniority % up there. In Houston he's bottom of the barrel.. But driving to work on reserve with our work rules is not bad at all. I did it for years.

I am 56 years old pilot living in Houston and looking to make a career change. I have been a GA pilot for 17 years with just under 1500. I always regretted not following my dream into an aviation career so in the current environment I figured I should just go for it. Thus my username.
Time is ticking away. I say go for it. ExpressJet has fantastic training, great LCA;) , and probably the best work rule wise contract in the RJ world.

The best case for me would be to hold Houston, on reserve or holding a line. If I can't hold Houston but am holding a line somewhere else I won't mind the commute. To be honest sitting on reserve and commuting scares me a bit.

Commuting to reserve sucks, there's no way to sugar coat it. But, it's just part of the game. Again, I bet you'll be back in IAH within a year of being on property

What work rules is it at XJT that make it better than others? and what is LCA?

(I'm a 135 guy looking to move to 121)

Sos21 12-20-2018 04:47 PM

TYS
 
I know it's still out there a ways and no one knows anything for sure yet, but any idea how junior or senior TYS will be when it opens or how long it might take a new guy to hold TYS out of IOE?

da42pilot 12-20-2018 04:57 PM

TYS is happening it just isn’t opened yet. Some very senior guys went there, but it’s still hard to say just how senior it’ll be. If it grows to what they’re saying it’ll grow I think you’d be able to get it within a year or so, maybe less.

LCA = line check airmen

Work rules... I’ll tell you one.... when you’re on reserve, on your last day before you go home, if they haven’t used you by 6pm you’re free to go home. Automatically, no need to call scheduling.

PontiusPilot 12-20-2018 05:03 PM

I can’t imagine TYS getting much bigger, so I wouldn’t expect it to be very attainable in a reasonable time for a new hire.

Based on what we know now, EWR and ORD are where new hires should expect to go.

Guard 12-21-2018 02:49 AM

Doesn't Republic and Mesa have IAH bases? I would say both are better airlines than XJT, I left XJT during the collapse and went to republic because life just got unbearable between rolled days off and constant complaining in the cockpit by me and everyone else, now on to a larger operation but life at XJT is very much in flux with everyone holding onto the dream of 25 new aircraft when they have parked 100's, place has been imploding for years with poor management. If you're going to have to commute there are more stable operators out there that pay a lot more, have large new aircraft being delivered, large signing bonuses and with lightning fast upgrade times. If you can drive to Dallas there are lots of options with great commuter airline. Good luck!

JuniorFO 12-21-2018 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Guard (Post 2728865)
Doesn't Republic and Mesa have IAH bases? I would say both are better airlines than XJT, I left XJT during the collapse and went to republic because life just got unbearable between rolled days off and constant complaining in the cockpit by me and everyone else, now on to a larger operation but life at XJT is very much in flux with everyone holding onto the dream of 25 new aircraft when they have parked 100's, place has been imploding for years with poor management. If you're going to have to commute there are more stable operators out there that pay a lot more, have large new aircraft being delivered, large signing bonuses and with lightning fast upgrade times. If you can drive to Dallas there are lots of options with great commuter airline. Good luck!

Why would United invest in an imploding airline with poor management? SkyWest pulled the strings and put XJT in the position they are today (loss of aircraft etc.) Why doesn't United just give those 25 E175s to Republic or MESA then? The 25 E175s are confirmed, by United, to be placed at XJT. I'm sure everyone at XJT is glad you and your bad attitude are long gone.

Also, XJT is now the second highest compensated regional behind EDV, with better healthcare and retirement.

da42pilot 12-21-2018 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard (Post 2728865)
Doesn't Republic and Mesa have IAH bases? I would say both are better airlines than XJT, I left XJT during the collapse and went to republic because life just got unbearable between rolled days off and constant complaining in the cockpit by me and everyone else, now on to a larger operation but life at XJT is very much in flux with everyone holding onto the dream of 25 new aircraft when they have parked 100's, place has been imploding for years with poor management. If you're going to have to commute there are more stable operators out there that pay a lot more, have large new aircraft being delivered, large signing bonuses and with lightning fast upgrade times. If you can drive to Dallas there are lots of options with great commuter airline. Good luck!

That’s history. We’ve hit bottom, which is quite literally the best time to join an airline.... assuming, of course, that what’s planned ahead for us is good and materializes.

I do agree republic is a great place to go, lower risk alternative, but without the possibility of a catching a huge hiring wave at the very beginning.

Expressjet still is a risk, but the payoff potential is significant. Let’s see how much materializes in January and to what extend this risk is put to bed.

Guard 12-22-2018 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 2728876)
Why would United invest in an imploding airline with poor management? SkyWest pulled the strings and put XJT in the position they are today (loss of aircraft etc.) Why doesn't United just give those 25 E175s to Republic or MESA then? The 25 E175s are confirmed, by United, to be placed at XJT. I'm sure everyone at XJT is glad you and your bad attitude are long gone.

Also, XJT is now the second highest compensated regional behind EDV, with better healthcare and retirement.


I hope it is better, I definitely left with a bad attitude, we had 300+ aircraft and were cancelling 200 flights a day at Chicago alone when I left for lack of proper scheduling, UAL was days away from CNX our CPA for cause, that idiot pilot/President in ATL who was running the place had no clue what he was doing. They were triple booking gates in EWR that ended up having planes in the ball park with pilots on board who needed to operate the same flight that was blocking their current gate, it was a joke. I was number 1 FO at IAD getting rolled on every trip and they wanted to give us a 10% pay cut to give CRJ's a 10% raise, and both MEC's couldn't get along because they both wanted the kickbacks for PBS, clowns. Good to hear it is doing so well now. I guess the 7 years of shrinking the place has paid off, good thing we voted down the "Super Regional" name change back then!

Melit 12-22-2018 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 2728876)
Why would United invest in an imploding airline with poor management? SkyWest pulled the strings and put XJT in the position they are today (loss of aircraft etc.) Why doesn't United just give those 25 E175s to Republic or MESA then? The 25 E175s are confirmed, by United, to be placed at XJT. I'm sure everyone at XJT is glad you and your bad attitude are long gone.

Also, XJT is now the second highest compensated regional behind EDV, with better healthcare and retirement.

United pulled the strings. I know you’re new so do some research

Melit 12-22-2018 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Guard (Post 2729511)
I hope it is better, I definitely left with a bad attitude, we had 300+ aircraft and were cancelling 200 flights a day at Chicago alone when I left for lack of proper scheduling, UAL was days away from CNX our CPA for cause, that idiot pilot/President in ATL who was running the place had no clue what he was doing. They were triple booking gates in EWR that ended up having planes in the ball park with pilots on board who needed to operate the same flight that was blocking their current gate, it was a joke. I was number 1 FO at IAD getting rolled on every trip and they wanted to give us a 10% pay cut to give CRJ's a 10% raise, and both MEC's couldn't get along because they both wanted the kickbacks for PBS, clowns. Good to hear it is doing so well now. I guess the 7 years of shrinking the place has paid off, good thing we voted down the "Super Regional" name change back then!

Wait until ManAir starts cutting costs

JuniorFO 12-22-2018 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2729514)
Wait until ManAir starts cutting costs

What part of the operation would they cut cost?

Sos21 12-31-2018 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 2728876)
Why would United invest in an imploding airline with poor management? SkyWest pulled the strings and put XJT in the position they are today (loss of aircraft etc.) Why doesn't United just give those 25 E175s to Republic or MESA then? The 25 E175s are confirmed, by United, to be placed at XJT. I'm sure everyone at XJT is glad you and your bad attitude are long gone.

Also, XJT is now the second highest compensated regional behind EDV, with better healthcare and retirement.

How is XJT the second highest? Looking at the pay scales on APC, I don’t see much difference, and it still seems far lower than Republic as well.

What is the healthcare like?

Arliss 12-31-2018 08:58 AM

Health insurance is good as is 401K. On top of the pay rates you also get $2500 ($2000 for captains) per quarter as long as you average 70 hours per month credit for the preceding quarter.

As a workaholic who lives local I’m making in the 70-75 K range annually.

uipilot45x 12-31-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Arliss (Post 2734303)
Health insurance is good as is 401K. On top of the pay rates you also get $2500 ($2000 for captains) per quarter as long as you average 70 hours per month credit for the preceding quarter.

As a workaholic who lives local I’m making in the 70-75 K range annually.

Are you an FO or a captain?

PontiusPilot 12-31-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sos21 (Post 2734276)
How is XJT the second highest? Looking at the pay scales on APC, I don’t see much difference, and it still seems far lower than Republic as well.

The pay scales don't reflect the earned quarterly override (EQO) payments. First officers receive an extra $10,000 per year (paid quarterly). For captains, it's $8,000. It's not a bonus and it doesn't expire, because it's in the contract.

In addition, there's also a new hire bonus of $10,000 but I'd expect that to go up.

da42pilot 12-31-2018 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sos21 (Post 2734276)
How is XJT the second highest? Looking at the pay scales on APC, I don’t see much difference, and it still seems far lower than Republic as well.

What is the healthcare like?

Don’t rely on APC data.

Arliss 12-31-2018 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by uipilot45x (Post 2734306)
are you an fo or a captain?

fo

.................

Arliss 12-31-2018 01:19 PM

To add: if I was working the same hours as a captain I’d be making just over $100K.

uipilot45x 12-31-2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Arliss (Post 2734433)
To add: if I was working the same hours as a captain I’d be making just over $100K.



As an FO, can you elaborate on being a “workaholic and living in base”? How often are you working, taking any days off?


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Arliss 12-31-2018 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uipilot45x (Post 2734435)
As an FO, can you elaborate on being a “workaholic and living in base”? How often are you working, taking any days off?


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It varies heavily month to month. Since August I’ve been crediting well over 100 hours per month. It averaged out over the year with about 105 credit hours per month and 10-13 days off. Like I said, living local helps because I can pick up red flagged day trips on short notice.

PhantomHawk 12-31-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Arliss (Post 2734433)
To add: if I was working the same hours as a captain I’d be making just over $100K.

To add: you’d have to be here at least 12 years to have the seniority to work those same hours. Anything less and you’re on reserve. I know you work in the junior base, but even there the most junior lineholder is 3/07 hire. And reserve red flag is nearly impossible to pick up.

Arliss 01-01-2019 05:40 AM

You’re damn right about that. There needs to be some serious movement here to fix that problem. I’d also recommend to the union to reduce the restrictions on reserves picking up extra flying. The other top tier regionals like Republic and Endeavor allow it and it’s popular.

DirkDiggler 01-01-2019 05:50 AM

After United acquired their stake in C5 they instituted CA pay for FOs after year 1. Let’s see if they do something like that here. Nobody in their right mind should come here for an 8 year upgrade and a few shiny 175s (that will go senior). This upgrade situation is out of control.

PhantomHawk 01-01-2019 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Arliss (Post 2734678)
I’d also recommend to the union to reduce the restrictions on reserves picking up extra flying..

There was an MOU or LOA that allowed it, but it was voted down by the pilot group. In my opinion, it was voted down because of all the other garbage that was included in it.

bestdamnpilot 03-04-2019 03:43 PM

Any updates on reserve time and base seniority since the latest aircraft and management changes?

PontiusPilot 03-04-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bestdamnpilot (Post 2774803)
Any updates on reserve time and base seniority since the latest aircraft and management changes?

I’m not sure about the latest reserve times. EWR and ORD are still junior, but the junior IAH FO is now a 12/2018 hire.

Knobcrk1 03-05-2019 05:16 PM

Will the 175 go to new hires?

PontiusPilot 03-05-2019 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 (Post 2775616)
Will the 175 go to new hires?

It isn’t yet, but I expect it to before the year is over.

Av8tor8710 03-06-2019 04:10 AM

If anyone could update us on current reserve times, if they have that info, or predicted trends a lot of folks like my self would be much obliged.

da42pilot 03-06-2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Av8tor8710 (Post 2775802)
If anyone could update us on current reserve times, if they have that info, or predicted trends a lot of folks like my self would be much obliged.

Hiring numbers are going up and up. As long as that keeps up, reserve times will keep coming down. That’s the trend right now.


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