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Expressjet does not appear anywhere on the AA schedule after 1/5... EX: Seven flights into BTR on the 5th... all SKYW after that..

source: A/A.com

Old news... I hear OO is taking over the hangar in BTR...

The UA purchase hangs in the balance of the outcome of this contract....

Tough for UA to buy a regional that flies for multiple carriers, isn’t it? When is LASA no longer going to fly for DAL?

Well if they don’t put forward some subpar garbage then we won’t have any issues. Maybe it’ll be $2.50 an hour this time.

It might be that in addition to rolling the retention bonus into the pay rates.

The most concrete answer yet is "Sometime in November" of this year (2018)

Is that your speculation? Or is that what’s being said in these crew-room visits?

It's true. Got announced yesterday I believe.

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Two crew room visits have talked about the importance of this vote.

That’s to be expected. I was asking if the UAL purchase being tied to the vote was actually said by anybody who matters.

I was told this by a CP.

Wow. Thanks

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JK and JC, apparently. Not sure where they fall on your spectrum of importance.

Lots of people speculate, and then spout their opinion as if it were a fact. I was looking for a credible source. JC is somebody I would believe, I guess I don’t know who JK is.

To reinforce my point, saying “apparently” means you didn’t hear them say it. Maybe they didn’t. That was all I wanted to know, is whether somebody who would KNOW has actually said what is being claimed here. Still sounds like rumor to me, however.

“Apparently” was tagged to JC, since I heard that second hand. JK is a former CP, if that helps.

“Truth isn’t truth”.

Apparently that’s what was said in the IAH meeting.

Who is JC... (not THAT JC... the one mentioned above)

What does purchasing a carrier give a mainline partner they don’t already have?

It's given AA a flow of pilots.. And DL can pretend it has.

Don’t each of those carriers have a pilot supply from all of the applicants, flow through or not?

UAL buying us contingent on a contract is probably a management rumor started o get us to agree to a crappy contract.

Into the mainline for now, yes. Into their regional feeders,.not so much any more.

Let's hope XJT don't bring us one.

Right on the ball my friend.. Nail on the head

I guess I should be paying more attention to the programs that AA, FDX, UAl, DAL have worked with Collegiate aviation programs to bring pilots to their companies. I’m willing to bet you should pay more attention as well.

UAL partnered with one school for a pathway program, FedEx with its one feeder, AA has a cadet program with its regional partners. Delta has a program too, but still no guaranteed flow.

So why does UAL purchasing XJT guarantee any of what you’re saying? Wouldn’t it make more sense to hire from a competitor’s regional?

It would be a little expensive graduating from college with an ATP

Five years ago it made perfect sense. Today, regionals have started cannibalizing each other for pilots. One has already ceased flying because of the shortage. If AA and DL are flowing, (not yet DL granted) then that's where the small supply of new pilots go..

When flights cancel due to lack of pilot we will see it. Or not able to put a pilot in a class

https://www.wsj.com/articles/delta-s...hts-1444278510

Lack of pilots shuts down US regional Great Lakes Airlines | Airlines content from ATWOnline

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/...s-showing.aspx

So where does UAL coming in and buying ExpressJet give them a pilot supply?

Easy. A flow. Those regionals that offer flows have zero staffing issues. One interview, but a few years in at a regional, and flow over to said Legacy. Great recipe.

Also, United’s pilot union wants to bring all 175 (Mesa, SkyWest and Republic) flying back inhouse. A wholly owned regional might be a step toward that goal that their union would agree to as an interim step. Several CPA’s would have to expire and 175’s acquired to make that happen and it would take several years.

It doesn't matter what the union wants. Is INC. willing to sell??

Huge piece of the puzzle.... They could be forced... assuming the buyer has any collateral....

How could they be "forced" to sell?

“Sell us Xjet or we will cancel all our CPA’s with SKW/Xjet and transfer them to others.” is one possibility of forcing a sell. An empty 121 Certificate (Xjet’s Certificate) is worth a lot less without a pilot base.

When Xjet started winding down its operations for American, I figured the Xjet deal was already done with United and there are a series of steps that SGU must go through. If the CRJ200’s and 175’s happen, there is a definition change of attitude in SGU and something had to make that happen.

Worked for DL 3 times now.

Well in that case why don't they buy OO too...

Could... But the OO DL and AA flying would have to go away first.