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AboveMins 11-30-2018 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2716876)
18 months to wait around for a possible round 2, to most likely get rejected again is crazy to me. Every day that passes is a day of seniority lost elsewhere.

Bingo. Personally, I regret waiting around to get rejected by the CPP. Could have been building seniority at my current carrier, and possibly made Captain by now. Someone previously stated that the Hogan is doing a good job of weeding folks like me out. To that, I say my Hogan failure is probably the best thing that's ever happened to my career. It forced me out of my comfort zone, and into a position I'm enjoying so much more than the time I spent working under that train wreck.

Arliss 11-30-2018 07:19 PM

At least someone is on m side. I've flown with several top-notch captains who busted the cpp. Luckily one guy I really liked is in the process for JetBlue. Hope he gets it.

Two other good captains couldn't go to UA because of no 4 year degree; they got picked up by American. Good for them.

Arliss 11-30-2018 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 2716974)
Bingo. Personally, I regret waiting around to get rejected by the CPP. Could have been building seniority at my current carrier, and possibly made Captain by now. Someone previously stated that the Hogan is doing a good job of weeding folks like me out. To that, I say my Hogan failure is probably the best thing that's ever happened to my career. It forced me out of my comfort zone, and into a position I'm enjoying so much more than the time I spent working under that train wreck.

Did you go to a LCC, ACMI, or another regional?

Blackhawk 11-30-2018 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Arliss (Post 2717015)
At least someone is on m side. I've flown with several top-notch captains who busted the cpp. Luckily one guy I really liked is in the process for JetBlue. Hope he gets it.

Two other good captains couldn't go to UA because of no 4 year degree; they got picked up by American. Good for them.

I know several great pilots/people who busted the Hogan. These weren't just great pilots, but great people who I would want flying my loved ones.
As I've written before. I had to take something like the Hogan while assessing for Special Operations. But it was supplemented by a psych eval. A written psych test in and of itself is worthless.

Puck Hawg 11-30-2018 08:34 PM

United is so full of themselves, and it’s going to come back to haunt them. They are busy hiring all the mid 20’s blondes and the rest of the low-time special interest folks, but when the music stops and they have to hire the rest of us joe-schmo’s, we are going to be happily working elsewhere, and they’re going to start scrambling for pilots.

Flying airplanes is more than anything that some 24 year old college HR grad knows about. Unfortunately, pilot hiring is out of the hands of pilots.

dramcoob9033 11-30-2018 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by PontiusPilot (Post 2716764)
I agree, and I think you made a good choice. Which base are you wanting?

I was hoping to get back to Houston at some point, what's the wait time currently to hold IAH reserve.

AboveMins 12-01-2018 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Arliss (Post 2717016)
Did you go to a LCC, ACMI, or another regional?

ACMI. No desire to ever give back to flying scheduled passenger service again. People may think it is the land of misfit pilots over here, but over the past year I haven't flown with anyone who I wouldn't trust to fly my family around. Can't say the same about some of the pilots picked up by two of the big 3. But hey, experience be damned if you gotta hit those quotas.

Puck Hawg 12-01-2018 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 2717168)
ACMI. No desire to ever give back to flying scheduled passenger service again. People may think it is the land of misfit pilots over here, but over the past year I haven't flown with anyone who I wouldn't trust to fly my family around. Can't say the same about some of the pilots picked up by two of the big 3. But hey, experience be damned if you gotta hit those quotas.

Amen. In my recent interview at an ACMI, they actually complimented me on how much time I had and how long I'd been in the left seat. It was actually a GOOD thing to them. They WANTED me to come there and I wasn't a burden on them for showing up for the interview.

I wasn't on trial like I was at UA. They made me feel guilty that I only had one or two volunteer items on my resume. I guess having a family and having min days off just isn't enough for the 25 year old HR folks. They kept asking why I haven't been to any of their job fairs. Ya know, the "special interest" fairs.

It's pathetic, actually.

Blackhawk 12-01-2018 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Puck Hawg (Post 2717209)
Amen. In my recent interview at an ACMI, they actually complimented me on how much time I had and how long I'd been in the left seat. It was actually a GOOD thing to them. They WANTED me to come there and I wasn't a burden on them for showing up for the interview.

I wasn't on trial like I was at UA. They made me feel guilty that I only had one or two volunteer items on my resume. I guess having a family and having min days off just isn't enough for the 25 year old HR folks. They kept asking why I haven't been to any of their job fairs. Ya know, the "special interest" fairs.

It's pathetic, actually.

Raising two kids. Hours on the road to soccer, lacrosse, football, music... Making dinners. Juggling my work schedule with their major events and my wife's work schedule. But I don't put in any time with Habitat For Humanity.

PhantomHawk 12-01-2018 06:33 PM

I think the emphasis on volunteerism has been exaggerated over the years. I shared a cockpit jumpseat with one of UAL’s Chief Pilots who said that it wasn’t emphasized nearly as much as people think it is, due to how difficult it is for them to verify it.

I think recruiters at job fairs emphasize it a lot, but have you ever noticed that recruiters are usually people who haven’t been at the airline very long themselves? Makes me think that the recruiters themselves may not have as much pull as we all think they do. I’ve been to a job fair or two, or three......and had one recruiter tell me one thing, only to get the exact opposite advice from another recruiter.

newpilotusa 12-03-2018 05:19 AM

Just wondering, what are FO’s getting assigned for bases during indoc? How long to hold ORD? How long to hold a line in ORD?

Arliss 12-03-2018 06:43 AM

I think a lot are going to ORD, possibly even most. Probably a few months to hold a relief line.


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