Class Date
 

I have a class date of 1/7/19 in Housto. and was wondering if anyone else has the same date.

Congratulations!!

I have one coming up in the 21st of January.

Congratulations and good luck.

Well congrats guys. We found our two new hires for January.

That’s not true is it?

Yes, it probably is...but I came to XJT in 2005 and I had interviewed with like 5 other carriers and they all offered me a job but I held out for XJT which was my last to offer me an interview. All in all this place is run pretty well and they take care of you. I think you’ll be happy for as long as you wish to stay here. Let’s face it, pilots wouldn’t be happy if we didn’t have something to ***** and complain about but its pretty good here. Just let me give you 2 tips that will help you immensely once you hit the line after training that they won’t tell you about....

1. Don’t start the APU without permission from the CA
2. Don’t ever, ever, ever touch the temperature control knob

See training video below for reference on this guideline......

New hire count:
August - 6
September - 2
October - 4
November - 3 (so far)

More than makes up for attrition. :rolleyes:

Certain aspects of attrition are a good thing.

For sure, but most of the people seem to be leaving from the middle and bottom of the list. No bueno. As the super senior keep stacking up at the top.

It’s good if you assume they can be replaced with cheaper labor. I think that wad was blown when pilots left XJT for other regionals. I think you will see some come over, but not nearly as many as were lost and, I don’t think, enough to do the flying wanted by UAL.
Of course this assumes UAL gives XJT the -175’s. They may look at current performance numbers (due to high attrition), and have second thoughts.

A post on our Facebook page is saying UA is happy with us and wants us to do more flying. But of course, we don’t have the staff to do it... I think UA knows getting the 200s up and running wasn’t going to be a cake walk.

I honestly hope you are right and there is good news for those still there by the holidays.

With the smaller class sizes, can you receive more training if needed? Should be interesting coming from a C-172.

Yes. They'll give you extra help if you need it. Flying jets also isn't as difficult as people make it out to be. If you have good basic instrument and multiengine skills, you can fly an ERJ.

Yes. I had recurrent and during the brief a student came having just passed their checkride. They hadn’t flown in a while so training took longer than normal but had a good attitude and was willing to learn.

Brush up on BAI flying, show up willing to learn, and don’t be afraid to ask questions.

Congrats!

Great, thanks. I am proficient with my instrument skills, as I try to take my students throught the clouds whenever possible. I've been waiting for this moment for over 30 years, so I will be sure to work as hard as possible to pass. I saw in an older thread on here a former XJT pilot posted flows, limitations etc from 2014. Would it help to review them now? Everyone I have met and/or spoken to at XJT and on APC has been very hekpful. Thanks for helping an old man's dream come true.

The flows will be different but the limitations and memory items should be the same. I’m guessing you know you’re going to get ERJ?

Yup, got the ERJ. Would the flows be vastly different?

A couple years ago the flows/checklist changed. Don’t want to risk the laws of primacy if those happen to be the old flows. It’s not the biggest deal but don’t want to accidentally make it harder on yourself.

Good probability the limitations are the same.

If you do follow those suggestions, you are not a Man... just keep it in mind;))

So I guess that makes me the #3 new hire for Nov ? Jan 7 start date.

I’d say #3 is a safe bet. Great time to get on board. Lost 51 pilots so far this month so things are looking up.

If things start moving again, the guys on property now will be the new top of the list. When I started in 06, I never thought I'd be somewhere below 600 on the total list of ~3200. That would have been rock star seniority 7 yrs ago. Now it's about 50%. With a little expansion, and if we magically became the new go-to regional for new hires, I'd be 25% in no time. Guys at the bottom would be where I am now in a couple years. All it takes is for some bottom feeder like Mesa to lose an important contract. Every one of their FOs would knife each other to be the first to come over the second they started moving backwards in base. Same goes for Republic, Endeavour, GoJet, etc. Very few that went over as street CA would stick around long enough to see downgrade.

I hear only great things about working at XJT. The attrition has me a little spooked but at the end of the day little reserve and lots of flying is what I am looking for... I also have some people reading the tea leaves telling me this is where I want to go.

Tea leaves are great. I drink them with my Koolaide!:)

Some metrics for the 3 new hires:

Total Pilots
Captains - 765 - of those Average Longevity - 16.97 years
Active Status - 564 - of those Average Longevity - 17.05 years
On Leave - 201 - of those Average Longevity - 16.76 years

FO's - 688 - of those Average Longevity - 7.75 years
Active Status - 557 - of those Average Longevity - 7.07 years
On Leave - 131 - of those Average Longevity - 10.65 years (more senior FO's leaving)

...and CPP is reaching the bottom of the CA list. I think we will see our first FO CPP candidate go to United by October 2019.

Yup. United is “happy” with the size of the current CPP pool, so they aren’t sending out second round Hogan’s yet. So much for that “seniority” hardon that they had.

Wow, 765 guys either opted out or were rejected by the CPP. Not sure I'd be so proud of that statistic.

It's been almost 18 months since I failed the Hogan and this is why I haven't gotten a second shot yet? :mad: I don't care if they're happy with the current size, the agreement says I'm entitled to two shots. I honestly hate United more and more every day. :mad: Really hope I can go to one of the LCC; the paycheck isn't as huge as a legacy but at least they don't abusively outsource.

Nope. That 765 number includes ASA folks that are not part of the Cpp.

Entitled much?

Sounds like the Hogan did it’s Job.

Wow! If I recall correctly, when I left a year ago, I was around 1100 or so on the combined list as a CA, with quite a few below me. Amazing how much that list has shrunk.

1543 are on the combined seniority list today, with about 220 on employment leave.

Im also in the January 7th class. After speaking to a lot of Mesa and Xjet pilots, I ended up choosing Xjet based on their training, work rules, and the ability to be mentored by seasoned Captains, not a 2 year upgrade who used to be your old CFI. As for the companys future, you don't buy a stock after its risen....Sure its a bit of a gamble, but what's the worst case? Excellent training and mentorship from experienced Captains?

I agree, and I think you made a good choice. Which base are you wanting?

EWR I hope.

That shouldn't be difficult.

18 months to wait around for a possible round 2, to most likely get rejected again is crazy to me. Every day that passes is a day of seniority lost elsewhere.