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simscott 12-16-2018 01:27 PM

Training pay
 
On APC it says guaranteed 65 hrs at $40/hr. So are they saying you’re gonna make $2600 for the whole month or is that some sort of bare minimum? My house alone is $1900/mo.

Claxstarr 12-16-2018 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by simscott (Post 2726413)
On APC it says guaranteed 65 hrs at $40/hr. So are they saying you’re gonna make $2600 for the whole month or is that some sort of bare minimum? My house alone is $1900/mo.

ummm you thought you could afford a 1900$ mortgage on new FO pay?
mannnnn i hope you have some savings, or maybe a working spouse!

DownInPetaluma 12-16-2018 04:05 PM

Ahh, they good ol’ days. I think I made around $900 a month net my first year.

simscott 12-16-2018 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Claxstarr (Post 2726442)
ummm you thought you could afford a 1900$ mortgage on new FO pay?
mannnnn i hope you have some savings, or maybe a working spouse!

Lol well to be honest that’s not bad for a mortgage. Most 2 bed apartments in my area are $1600+. I mean I can eat Raman noodles but if I can barely pay my mortgage then that’s gonna be hard to do.

PontiusPilot 12-16-2018 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by simscott (Post 2726509)
Lol well to be honest that’s not bad for a mortgage. Most 2 bed apartments in my area are $1600+. I mean I can eat Raman noodles but if I can barely pay my mortgage then that’s gonna be hard to do.

When do you start? Hopefully the new hire bonus will be bumped up a bit, which would help you out.

simscott 12-16-2018 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by PontiusPilot (Post 2726552)
When do you start? Hopefully the new hire bonus will be bumped up a bit, which would help you out.

Haven’t applied but doing my research. I wanted to see if this was correct because if XJT is wondering why they aren’t getting new hires training pay could be an issue also. That’s $2600 before taxes. I get 10 years ago that was the starting pay but pilots would get second jobs like delivering pizza to make ends meet and pay their dues. It’s not like you can get a side job while in training for 3-4 months. Either way just surprised that’s all, kinda bust my bubble a bit. No way I can afford going here.

dera 12-16-2018 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by simscott (Post 2726581)
Haven’t applied but doing my research. I wanted to see if this was correct because if XJT is wondering why they aren’t getting new hires training pay could be an issue also. That’s $2600 before taxes. I get 10 years ago that was the starting pay but pilots would get second jobs like delivering pizza to make ends meet and pay their dues. It’s not like you can get a side job while in training for 3-4 months. Either way just surprised that’s all, kinda bust my bubble a bit. No way I can afford going here.

It's pretty much the same across all regionals. They all dress it up differently, but the fact is - you get paid around $50k first year at any regional.

rpatte1637 12-16-2018 11:58 PM

I was in training a little over 2.5 years ago and the pay was $300 a week. Had to go out on medical leave and short term disability which was only 60% of that. Now they want to rescind my CJO because the FAA is taking to long to get me approved to fly again.

StartUp161WanaB 12-17-2018 02:24 AM

C5
 
CommutAir pays 22,500k on day 1 of training (2 year contract )

calmwinds 12-17-2018 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by StartUp161WanaB (Post 2726599)
CommutAir pays 22,500k on day 1 of training (2 year contract )

And, CommutAir is as close to a wholly owned regional as United will ever have.

Do the research. Look at your total compensation over your expected years there. Look at the odds of going elsewhere.

Hou757 12-17-2018 11:40 AM

New hire pay is pretty much on par with other regionals. Yes they do need to increase the bonus. You will have a tough time finding a regional with a better contract! Good luck with your decision.

RickGassko 12-17-2018 12:05 PM

You haven’t lived until you’ve been through 3 months of XJT training on two paychecks worth $700 a piece. (Circa 2013)

calmwinds 12-17-2018 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by RickGassko (Post 2726795)
You haven’t lived until you’ve been through 3 months of XJT training on two paychecks worth $700 a piece. (Circa 2013)

Nearly everywhere has a better signing bonus. Look at Envoy, CommutAir, even Mesa. Mesa’s problem is it’s health insurance costs —- not it’s $36 per hour with 76 hour min guarantee.

Hou757 12-17-2018 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by RickGassko (Post 2726795)
You haven’t lived until you’ve been through 3 months of XJT training on two paychecks worth $700 a piece. (Circa 2013)

It's definitely much better today. With the hiring bonus and retention bonus new hires can easily survive on first year pay.

piloto2 12-19-2018 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by calmwinds (Post 2726609)
And, CommutAir is as close to a wholly owned regional as United will ever have.

Wrong again smart guy!

DownInPetaluma 12-19-2018 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by piloto2 (Post 2728092)
Wrong again smart guy!

You are not privy to the mainline ownership stake. If it turns out to be 48.9%, you’re not looking too smart.

mexipilot84 12-22-2018 07:21 AM

Are they still doing double occupancy hotels at xjt for training? I remember that was the case in 2013 when I was there.

PontiusPilot 12-22-2018 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 2729620)
Are they still doing double occupancy hotels at xjt for training? I remember that was the case in 2013 when I was there.

Nope... it’s single occupancy and has been for a few years.

Exbizjet 01-04-2019 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by simscott (Post 2726413)
On APC it says guaranteed 65 hrs at $40/hr. So are they saying you’re gonna make $2600 for the whole month or is that some sort of bare minimum? My house alone is $1900/mo.

Depending on what your background was prior to XJT. They are now offering bonuses for prior type ratings. In addition, to the sign on bonus. But, I believe the bottom line of all of this that my colleagues on here are trying to tell you. Is that whether you come here or go to a major your pay for the first two years is going to be low. Smart guys coming into this industry. Stash away as much money as possible to cover their bills and have some seed money for covering things when arriving for training.

XJT gives you your own hotel room with microwave. Depending on where they put you up you might get breakfast on the hotel. Once you figure out where they are putting you up. Depending on where you stay they will either drop you off or you can Uber. Go to Walmart, Sam's, Costco, etc and stock up on cold cuts, canned goods, and cereal etc. Plus, once you start IOE you are getting Perdiem. Eat on your Perdiem. If you get strategic on your overhead expenses before you arrive. You can survive.

Guard 01-04-2019 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2726468)
Ahh, they good ol’ days. I think I made around $900 a month net my first year.


I shared a room and got Holiday Inn Food for breakfast only, no pay, good luck with this!


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