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stabapch 03-24-2019 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2788496)
Posted today on another thread:

There is no pilot shortage at mainline and given the fact that all three have developed street to hero programs to fill any voids they may have, but none of them have created any hard flows from their regionals other than AA. That shows they don’t have much interest in taking away pilots from their regional partners.

If you’re going to cite propaganda you should post the original source. This is old and essentially means nothing. All those stats are volunteer collected by pilots within the union. We have guys leaving constantly just going off the seniority list that no one knows anything about. It’s a pure fact that every month we have an excessive amount of guys being swept up by JB 3-4 years in and a lot from the right seat. LCC’s (primarily spirit) are given offers to our guys prior to one year on property. Mainline? Anywhere from 3-6 years LARGELY depending on your personal background and I’m not talking about military. We had a guy leave to United as an FO because of specific masters degree he held. This has been said a thousand times on these boards, it ain’t the airline name. You want a “guaranteed” class date with a major? 8-10 flow at AA’s feeds. Ask EDV how many people go Delta and even better how long they take....good joke.

FollowMe 03-24-2019 06:16 AM

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airlinepilot50 03-24-2019 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2788415)
Nut up, or shut the ****** up. Post your source where UA said ExpressJet will be their 175 platform going forward.

YOU HAVN’T EVEN OPERATED A SINGLE 175 FLIGHT!

Also, post your source on the expiration of the CPA’s for YX’s UA contracts. Nut up, or shut the ****** up.

The E175 sim arrived on property last week. The E175 is the most profitable regional jet, w/UA owning 50% of XJT, they will bring as many E175s on property as they can. Why would UA want other regionals to make money on this profitable a/c? Republic and Mesa FOs will leave to XJT once they notice our upgrade time drops to less than two years with help from United taking back the E175s from Republic and Mesa. Another option for XJT to grow the E175 would be from UA replacing the CRJ 700s with the E175SC (70 seat configuration).

pangolin 03-24-2019 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2788190)
You appear to be lacking in elementary economic skills. UA has EIGHT regional feeds. Why is that? Do I really need to explain?

In a perfect world, mainline would give regionals with the best performance the flying. You know because cancelled flights angers customers which potentially choose to take their business elesewhere which translates to lost profits for the big wigs. Simple. Ask Delta how it’s done!

Not jealousy, but lots of frustration when the sub par guys that still can’t prove themselves get the flying contracts. UA will always be cheap and it’ll catch up.

Sometimes I can’t fathom the lack of reason. Here’s some thought provoking items for you:

Express Jet has a decent contract. They can attract pilots. They will staff the flying. They are not launching aircraft at an unreasonable rate. United owns them via the holding company. They don’t want or expect them to fail. Up until just recently their major 175 provider Mesa, where I work, couldn’t staff their 175 flying. This is a hedge bet by United. As XJT gets their 175 program running they can take airplanes from Mesa. United owns the majority of the Mesa fleet.
The only interesting thing is Mesa just hired a United guy into an executive position managing the United flying. But I’m telling you XJT is in an excellent position and I don’t think that should bother anybody.

tonsterboy5 03-24-2019 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 2788653)

I see this as nothing more than a market ploy. Giving percentages of people that left in the last few years says nothing about number. This chart would be the same if 20 people or 500 people move on a year.

pangolin 03-24-2019 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 2788701)
The E175 sim arrived on property last week. The E175 is the most profitable regional jet, w/UA owning 50% of XJT, they will bring as many E175s on property as they can. Why would UA want other regionals to make money on this profitable a/c? Republic and Mesa FOs will leave to XJT once they notice our upgrade time drops to less than two years with help from United taking back the E175s from Republic and Mesa. Another option for XJT to grow the E175 would be from UA replacing the CRJ 700s with the E175SC (70 seat configuration).

I’d just give up. Denial is powerful.

KCaviator 03-24-2019 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 2788701)
The E175 sim arrived on property last week. The E175 is the most profitable regional jet, w/UA owning 50% of XJT, they will bring as many E175s on property as they can. Why would UA want other regionals to make money on this profitable a/c? Republic and Mesa FOs will leave to XJT once they notice our upgrade time drops to less than two years with help from United taking back the E175s from Republic and Mesa. Another option for XJT to grow the E175 would be from UA replacing the CRJ 700s with the E175SC (70 seat configuration).

Aside from the sim, these are not facts. These are opinions. Learn the difference idiot.

And again, since you think UA is going to take 175s from YX (which at most could only be 12), post the details of the current CPA for those aircraft.

KCaviator 03-24-2019 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Hou757 (Post 2788422)
Sorry to pop your bubble but what he posted is true. Accept the facts KC.

You, also, need to learn the difference between facts and opinions. “Facts” are much different than a bottom feeders “opinion” about what is going to happen at said bottom feeder.

Just because home boy is a keyboard warrior in his mommy’s basement doesn’t make it a fact.

pangolin 03-24-2019 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2788714)
You, also, need to learn the difference between facts and opinions. “Facts” are much different than a bottom feeders “opinion” about what is going to happen at said bottom feeder.

Just because home boy is a keyboard warrior in his mommy’s basement doesn’t make it a fact.

Dude. You are leaning when you walk because of that huge chip on your shoulder. It’s gonna stress your heart then you’ll be no good to anybody. Chill. What’s it matter? What happens will happen. What’s your investment here?

FollowMe 03-24-2019 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 2788709)
I see this as nothing more than a market ploy. Giving percentages of people that left in the last few years says nothing about number. This chart would be the same if 20 people or 500 people move on a year.

2018 attrition was more than 250, more than half of which went to DL/UA/AA/SWA. LCC/ACMI made up only 18%.


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