Expressjet vs Skywest
 

Risky thread but here we go, hopefully mostly positive people will participate.

Not talking about the past, just the present/future.

I keep reading how even though it'd be risky joining Expressjet, it could also be a great moment.

I got a class with Skywest, and I'm just wondering about Expressjet. I wouldn't mind keep flying the same plane (145) and also living in Texas.

Do some of you guys care to add pros/cons comparing both operators?

Do you like Koolaid?

Very risky. I suggest you don’t read the responses and just decide for yourself by calling a few friends at both airlines....

This is the best advice you will ever get

This. I had the same decision to make. Called some friends and got an honest opinion for both sides. Also had some friends put me into contact with a few more people at each airline so I could get more than one opinion.

We have new hires from Dec 2018 awarded the E175 if that makes a difference to you. There is a slight chance we might get a straight flow, especially now since they a difficult time recruiting. United is investing a lot of money into our company with new aircraft and we should be taking aircraft away from Mesa later this year which will drive our upgrade times down dramatically. If you get in now at 1500 pilots and we hire 600 or more in the next year, you are jumping way ahead in seniority. A lot of news coming this year and if it doesn’t turn out to be great, then you should consider GoJets which will offer a fairly quick upgrade, decent pay and new a/c.

ERJ135dude, something to think about. God forbid you make a mistake or have a mishap while at work. If you work for Expressjet you have ALPA protection. If you work at SkyWest you have NO protection. At Expressjet you could be taken offline and retrained then returned to the line. At SkyWest you will be fired. Then when the feds get involved you will now pay for your legal fees. You will then pay for your retraining if you choose to continue your career as a pilot. I indirectly met two SkyWest pilots at Flight Safety this past December who made a mistake while operating a SkyWest aircraft. They were fired.

Choose wisely.

701EV

This. +1.
+10

How much kool aid did you chug? OO has been getting new aircraft every month. Two just showed up on property last week but nobody talks about it because it’s business as usual. Taking aircraft from Mesa? You can’t even staff the old clapped out 145’s! You must be new! And Alpa? If you take a job based on “if I screw up alpa will protect me” find a new career!

How much kool aid did you chug? OO has been getting new aircraft every month. Two just showed up on property last week but nobody talks about it because it’s business as usual. Taking aircraft from Mesa? You can’t even staff the old clapped out 145’s! You must be new! And Alpa? If you take a job based on “if I screw up alpa will protect me” find a new career!

You base your career on screwing up?

Exactly. And a “mistake” can be far worse then just a screwup... alpa can’t save you from that.. Like i said, You stated something you should have. Call some friends. All you will find here is the same looped recoding playing over and over again..

How is united investing in your company? United bought the 25 175’s and are letting you use them. They bought what 40-50 for Mesa. So it looks like they invested more for Mesa!

Why would UA keep United OWNED a/c at Mesa when they have a stake in XJT? United can make more profits and offer a better product transferring all of the E175s to XJT.

Oh really do tell Mr Aviation professional..If that’s the case why does United have regionals at all?

We will have 60 or more E175s on property by next year. We are offering a lower cost to UA than any regional product operating the E175. Simple economics brother! Staffing will not be an issue once the E175s keep coming. We will get E175 FOs from other regionals over the next year as upgrade times drop under two years. Regional FOs have a history of chasing upgrade times, it's XJT's time to steal pilots from other regionals.

Lol.. look how bad you screwed up by going to Gojet. What a dump.

You should charge a little more so you can afford your own IT department instead of sponging off OO

It’s to early to serve you I’ll wait until later.

Oh well, at least we got a handful of good answers before the **** fight started again 😁!. Thanks for the advice guys

I chose ExpressJet. Probably the number 1 reason was because of the purposeful shrinking that Inc imposed on them for the past few years. Just like the stock market, without risk there is no reward. I would rather support a unionized carrier with a huge upside right now, rather than go fly for a non-union carrier that has a too high opinion of themselves and milked a subsidiary for all they were worth. We can all have a bad day. IF that ever happens, I would want a union behind me advocating for my protection. Those that think they operate aircraft perfectly in all conditions are showing blindness to the risks, and in my opinion are even more susceptible to an incident.

XJT has 60 tail numbers reserved and is installing a 175 sim. You don’t invest in a sim to staff 25 airplanes.


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Congratulations! Excellent and wise decision. Welcome.

Not saying it should be your number one concern, but having that protection is better than not having it.

Once again XJT has nothing reserved! They are UNITEDS and their orders are AFTER Republics and OO

Give it a rest. You really don’t have any idea how idiotic you sound, do you? I mean do you really have an airline job or are you a bubble boy with nothing else to do with your life but to respond to every person who posts in an ExpressJet forum? Get ooff your computer and get a life.

So are you saying XJT has them reserved and not United?

No, I’m just saying you’re so stupid you don’t know how idiotic you sound. That’s all.
Oh, and that you need to get a life and stop being a petty, little man who seems to have nothing better to do than respond to every post in the ExpresssJet section. You must be one of the ones who ignores the crew and is on his cell phone all day. I can’t see how you have time for anything else.
So that was two things. Or does that make it three?

Curious, which regionals have upgrade times greater than 2 years on the 175 other than XJT?

I’m not gonna offer advice to go to one over the other, but I would be careful on making a decision based on speculation on these boards. There’s risks based on empty speculation and risks based on facts and trends. All the XJT “growth theories” were started by one person pulling something out of their ass, feeding it to a “believer” and then that person pulling it out of their ass until you have a group of guys saying “oh yeah that sounds good, I like that theory, let’s go with that to make us feel better!” But in the reality that we all live in there exists no trends or positive outcomes to this day that backs those theories up. Unlike “theories” at other places.

I bet you’re on Facebook aren’t you? Are you the type that has 600 friends but only know 10?

Facebook? That’s what you got?
Again, get a life and move on man. Get a life. Go outside your hotel room and see what there is to see in the world. You’re pathetic little man and you don’t even know it.

Please go pick up the XJT flying that we are canceling so we can enjoy our time off! It's your job. Thank you.

For those yelling about upgrade times, do some research on United’s upgrade times and how they have dropped recently. XJT has 1,000 pilots and is looking to hire 600 this year (they may or may not hit that mark), 270 went to United last year through CPP. What do you think that combined with the new 175s and maximized 50 seat fleet will do to upgrade times?

I can’t see anything about past hire dates, but United had a large gap where virtually no guys were hired and caused upgrades to drop by 7 years overnight. Anything like that at XJT?

Yes. Many (probably most) hired between 2011 and 2017 or so have left. Upgrade times recently dropped by 2.5 years under a vacancy bid that produced 65 pure upgrades. If the next bid is similar, upgrade should be awarded to 2016 hires.

Sorry I shouldn’t have called you out until you pass your check ride

That’s ok. We forgive you. We understand you’re still at GoJet. Maybe one day you’ll be able to offer something worthwhile to the discussion. But you will need to get your mommy’s permission for that first. Does she know you have exceeded your computer time today?

Hahahah this pathetic Melit loser is at GoJet, hahahahaha

The really sad part is that he doesn’t seem to know it. I almost feel sorry for him.

For the OP:
Not for you as a pilot but xjt is also getting a cabin trainer for the FAs. Just another investment to go along with the 175 sim.
Actually, the pilots use it also...