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Currently in indoc right now. I was wondering how much of the FOM should be memorized? Is it a good idea to spend most of the time during indoc week preparing for systems instead of studying indoc material?

Nothing in the FOM really needs to be memorized. Something’s you’ll just remember without trying to hard, but the test at the end of indoc is open booked. My understanding is they really want to see that you can navigate the FOM to answer questions that’ll pop up on the line.

If you follow exactly what they tell you to study or what the homework says for that night, you’ll do fine. Hope this helps! Good luck!

Yeah they told us open tablet. The homework each night includes limitations and immediate action items. Already have them down. I'm just not sure if I should get ahead of the game with flows or not.

They told us not to get ahead, but then randomly one of the instructors said “sure! Start looking at the power up.” But that was a descent amount of time into BI.

We were all a bit confused since they said only to do that nights homework. Near the end of indoc I might’ve looked at the power up a couple days early compared to the homework. But only the pattern, you definitely don’t need to worry about the amplified procedures till you get to that part of systems.

Once you do get to systems, there’s some descent quizlet sets that are somewhat recent.

The program is tried and true. If you follow their footprint you can’t go wrong.

You guys at La Quinta South? :) plenty of time to learn everything!.

We are haha...... all the time in the world to study here.

I'm heading to Dallas on the 5th for the CTP course, any of you did it?

Yeah I did. Straightforward and easy. We all took our ATP written after the final day. Make sure you have coffee. Days are LONG and DRY.

Don’t worry about the FOM...learn how to fly the plane.

Sweet, I'm a coffee addict lol. How long did it take to study the Sheppard (or similar)?. I finish my last trip next week and I'll have basically a week to memorize that non sense.

I wouldn’t go this far, but don’t get into the weeds with the FOM. Worry about the big stuff that concerned you as a pilot before and can bite you on line, such as knowing alternate requirements.

Here’s my advice as a LCP. Be familiar with the FOM, nothing in it needs to be memorized. It’s source material, be able to find the information if asked.

For an oral? Sure. Real world you probably should have a few things memorized such as what I mentioned above. But that’s very little of it.

Nothing in the oral from the FOM, nothing should be memorized from the FOM. Just be able to locate the subject matter in a timely fashion. A lot has changed since you/I went through BI

And much stays the same. ExpressJet, at least a year ago, had crews depart without a required alternate and thus less than the required fuel. In addition to the personal hazard doing so presents it also can present a professional hazard. Nothing like explaining a violation during an interview.

And that is something that’s very simple to know and look up. Shame on that crew.

Here’s a thought......new guys should probably give more credence to the guy who actually still works there (flynd94) than the guys who linger and still think their advice is worth a $hit (Blackhawk and myself).

The advice I gave applies to any commercial operation, not ExpressJet specifically. There are some things you will use in day to day operations and should probably memorize. “1,2,3 rule” “1 approach 2 approach rule” come to mind. One will (or should be), looking at that every leg.

Yes, it is simple to know. That’s my point. One should not assume nothing in an FOM needs to be memorized. That’s bad advice. In any commercial operation. But maybe it’s the advice those crews were given. “Don’t bother memorizing anything in the FOM.” Oops.

New Indoc guys, how is it going :) enjoying so far?