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afterburn81 08-08-2019 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2866758)
No PBS, line bidding. PBS software only for the second phase after vacations/training are put on your line. PBS is only as good as the contractual work rules (or lack of) that get programmed into the system.

Even then it’s not really
PBS right? It’s just a system to sort the pairings you are looking for to improve your line. I’ve actually never used it. Just looked at it.

DoSomePilotStuf 08-08-2019 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2866784)
There’s a MASSIVE log jam waiting for you.

If you watch the seniority list and where the attrition is coming from the upgrade time is going to come down dramatically. 99% of the attrition everyone is talking about is from above the most junior captains. At the end of the day isn’t that all that matters with the amount of hiring taking place?

Like the guy said he’s a new hire and has moved from 1450 to 1150. Most Jr captain is 950. So he’s well over halfway there. As a new hire.

DirkDiggler 08-08-2019 08:27 AM

I guess the moral of this story is there is no real reason to come here with all of the better options out there.

Av8tor8710 08-08-2019 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2867028)
I guess the moral of this story is there is no real reason to come here with all of the better options out there.

If Compass gets United flying, yea inclined to agree. However, if they do not you guys have more leverage with a chance at a new TA with better pay, work rules, QOL etc...XJT really has an opportunity to turn things around and attract more people. May not get everything but something good can come of this.

drywhitetoast 08-08-2019 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Av8tor8710 (Post 2867075)
If Compass gets United flying, yea inclined to agree. However, if they do not you guys have more leverage with a chance at a new TA with better pay, work rules, QOL etc...XJT really has an opportunity to turn things around and attract more people. May not get everything but something good can come of this.

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Melit 08-08-2019 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Av8tor8710 (Post 2867075)
If Compass gets United flying, yea inclined to agree. However, if they do not you guys have more leverage with a chance at a new TA with better pay, work rules, QOL etc...XJT really has an opportunity to turn things around and attract more people. May not get everything but something good can come of this.

And United knows this....Enter Compass..

Dusty Bawls 08-08-2019 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2867127)
And United knows this....Enter Compass..

Facts. Why would they do anything pragmatic? It’s not like any of the other majors are getting smart 🙄.

KCaviator 08-08-2019 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2867127)
And United knows this....Enter Compass..

United adding regionals to whipsaw each other while the real airlines are consolidating and focusing on performance and product. UA cares about one thing and one thing only.

bestdamnpilot 08-08-2019 01:50 PM

Why would management care to change the price of their labor in regards to how many they are hiring when training can’t handle the current intake?

You could make the argument that it would slow the attrition but it’s just wrong. Who in their right mind would turn down a chance to go to a properly paying job? (which would be a hell of a lot better than the $15/hour a raise XJT pilots deserve)


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Greygore1869 08-08-2019 05:47 PM

Another month. Another delayed bid packet....


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