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Av8tor8710 08-07-2019 04:38 PM

Very inspiring....was excited about the CJO. Was.

itsmytime 08-07-2019 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2866690)
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The lines and pairings just keep getting worse. They're trying to get us to leave!

There has been a gradual and continuous degradation in the quality of lines and pairings over recent months and years. Much of this has to do with the reduction in the "quality" of flying we are awarded by United. In addition, management has made deliberate decisions recently that have dramatically reduced the quality of our lines. For example, they recently forced the XJT Scheduling Committee to produce as few lines as possible for August, which resulted in fewer days off for lineholders (IAH saw just seven lines above minimum days off in August). As our contract requires lines to be built to "maximize days off," a group grievance was filed over this.
THE DEAL'S NOT DONE!

Don’t you guys use PBS? I thought PBS allowed you to sort of “build your own line?” Please correct me if that’s not how it works.

DirkDiggler 08-07-2019 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Av8tor8710 (Post 2866726)
Very inspiring....was excited about the CJO. Was.

It’s important for new hires to know what they are getting into.

DirkDiggler 08-07-2019 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 2866741)
Don’t you guys use PBS? I thought PBS allowed you to sort of “build your own line?” Please correct me if that’s not how it works.

No PBS, line bidding. PBS software only for the second phase after vacations/training are put on your line. PBS is only as good as the contractual work rules (or lack of) that get programmed into the system.

Lebron 08-07-2019 06:10 PM

There is no perfect regional the sooner you understand that the quicker you will be going somewhere that actually pays you enough to complain.

falconkidding 08-07-2019 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Av8tor8710 (Post 2866726)
Very inspiring....was excited about the CJO. Was.

Take everything with a grain of salt. Im a new hire did reserve for a month and a half now a lineholder in my base and i have 15 days off. Theres a lot to complain about but on reserve i flew a bunch never had a rolled day. If i keep moving up the seniority at a similar rate ill upgrade near 18months assuming hiring continues at the same rate. I started 1450 now im near 1150.

Like i say theres plenty of stuff to complain about but its worked out well for me. The truth is somewhere between the doom and gloom from the union and the sunshine and rainbows from the company.

PhantomHawk 08-07-2019 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by falconkidding (Post 2866766)
If i keep moving up the seniority at a similar rate ill upgrade near 18months assuming hiring continues at the same rate. I started 1450 now im near 1150.

There’s a MASSIVE log jam waiting for you.

FlyRight2876 08-07-2019 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by falconkidding (Post 2866766)
Take everything with a grain of salt. Im a new hire did reserve for a month and a half now a lineholder in my base and i have 15 days off. Theres a lot to complain about but on reserve i flew a bunch never had a rolled day. If i keep moving up the seniority at a similar rate ill upgrade near 18months assuming hiring continues at the same rate. I started 1450 now im near 1150.

Like i say theres plenty of stuff to complain about but its worked out well for me. The truth is somewhere between the doom and gloom from the union and the sunshine and rainbows from the company.

How did you manage wknds and 15 days off in Houston at the bottom of the lineholder list?

falconkidding 08-08-2019 02:08 AM


Originally Posted by FlyRight2876 (Post 2866817)
How did you manage wknds and 15 days off in Houston at the bottom of the lineholder list?

Not in IAH since i swapped bases . In IAH would have a line in Sept. Idt i said anything about weekends off. I only got 2 weekend days off which is fine i like working weekends since all my buddies do.

afterburn81 08-08-2019 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by falconkidding (Post 2866766)
Take everything with a grain of salt. Im a new hire did reserve for a month and a half now a lineholder in my base and i have 15 days off. Theres a lot to complain about but on reserve i flew a bunch never had a rolled day. If i keep moving up the seniority at a similar rate ill upgrade near 18months assuming hiring continues at the same rate. I started 1450 now im near 1150.

Like i say theres plenty of stuff to complain about but its worked out well for me. The truth is somewhere between the doom and gloom from the union and the sunshine and rainbows from the company.

Ohhhh boy. Here we go again. Give it time my friend. The koolaid is stroooong lately.


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