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Old 08-14-2019, 08:01 PM
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This is the current upgrade time for the E-145 for each base on the last bid (19-04). The upgrades from the last bid (19-03) haven't gone to class and won't for the next 1-2 months. 19-04 has an effective date of April 2020.

Most junior Bid 19-04 upgrade :

EWR: 2 yrs, 10 months
CLE: 3 yrs, 6 months.
ORD: 10 yrs, 2 months
IAH: 12 yrs, 6 months
TYS: No upgrades (extremely, extremely senior and tiny base) (6 Lines)

Feel free to update this thread as upgrade time comes down.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyRight2876 View Post
This is the current upgrade time for the E-145 for each base on the last bid (19-04). The upgrades from the last bid (19-03) haven't gone to class and won't for the next 1-2 months. 19-04 has an effective date of April 2020.

Most junior Bid 19-04 upgrade :

EWR: 2 yrs, 10 months
CLE: 3 yrs, 6 months.
ORD: 10 yrs, 2 months
IAH: 12 yrs, 6 months
TYS: No upgrades (extremely, extremely senior and tiny base) (6 Lines)

Feel free to update this thread as upgrade time comes down.

Awesome the upgrade time has come down from 8 yrs to 2 yrs 10 months. That great news.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:18 AM
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Awesome the upgrade time has come down from 8 yrs to 2 yrs 10 months. That great news.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:27 AM
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These numbers are a little misleading though because you are only taking one bid into consideration. In 19-03, for example, the junior IAH CA award was 5 yr 2 mo. There just wasn't any spots in IAH to go around on this latest bid. I am sure future bids will have more slots in these senior bases and the junior ca hire dates will drop.
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Originally Posted by flynd94 View Post
Awesome the upgrade time has come down from 8 yrs to 2 yrs 10 months. That great news.

You are seriously a disappointment breeding machine. It’s not great news. One day it “will” be great news.

A person will upgrade when they upgrade. Fantasizing about it will not pay the bills or earn you PIC time. Tell the truth and nothing but the truth. People of the future will thank you.
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You are seriously a disappointment breeding machine. It’s not great news. One day it “will” be great news.

A person will upgrade when they upgrade. Fantasizing about it will not pay the bills or earn you PIC time. Tell the truth and nothing but the truth. People of the future will thank you.
It’s like that at ALL airlines. Upgrade at UAL is about 4 years.......if you want SFO. Many people don’t, so they wait. Upgrade at IAH is about 7 years. Denver is insanely high. But nobody walks around talking about “average upgrade”. The garbage bases are junior, the desirable bases are senior. Always gonna be that way. If you want it bad enough......you’ll take it. I upgraded as soon as I could at XJT. I live in a hub, but I commuted to other bases for almost 3 years.
I get what you’re saying.....but it wasn’t too long ago that EWR was at 8-9 years, and IAH was untouchable. So flynd94 is right, even if you wanna just focus on the negative.
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk View Post
It’s like that at ALL airlines. Upgrade at UAL is about 4 years.......if you want SFO. Many people don’t, so they wait. Upgrade at IAH is about 7 years. Denver is insanely high. But nobody walks around talking about “average upgrade”. The garbage bases are junior, the desirable bases are senior. Always gonna be that way. If you want it bad enough......you’ll take it. I upgraded as soon as I could at XJT. I live in a hub, but I commuted to other bases for almost 3 years.
I get what you’re saying.....but it wasn’t too long ago that EWR was at 8-9 years, and IAH was untouchable. So flynd94 is right, even if you wanna just focus on the negative.
They know the facts, the truth is not on their agenda.

That should be obvious when they say things like “it’s a lie to tell people the upgrade time is 2 years 10 months” when that’s exactly what the time is, right there in black and white!

The way things are playing out with the Chicago base opening I see another system bid in the near future. Probably around October. The upgrade time will be under 2 years and there will REALLY be some panties in a wad.
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What are the junior hire dates for 175 CAs?
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What are the junior hire dates for 175 CAs?
June 2000.

FO side has gone very junior, majority new hires. Basically the E175 FOs should expect to upgrade on the E145. That is unless the fleet sees MASSIVE changes in the next 2 years.
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Originally Posted by CubWrangler View Post
June 2000.

FO side has gone very junior, majority new hires. Basically the E175 FOs should expect to upgrade on the E145. That is unless the fleet sees MASSIVE changes in the next 2 years.
Check 19-04 awards. It’s no longer 2000 for junior 175 CA.
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