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Av8tor8710 08-17-2019 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2871583)
Sometime 2020. Likely very early. The company shows 145 for now. Bear in mind every single 175 new hire on property was initially assigned 145.

Until we find out when/if we get more 175s expect stagnation. There are enough 175 FOs to cover the current 25 airframes.

The company is woefully short 145 FOs because of all the 175 hiring and attrition. Expect the 145 unless more 175s are announced. If you are coming primarily for the 175 best bet would be Republic, at least for the next couple of weeks. But Republic really has enough in queue to cover their newest needs. They will quickly go right back to a 6 month wait.

If you are coming for choice of base expect to wait a few months. The days of choosing base out of training are in suspension. Expect base of choice in a few months. Needs are outweighing wants at the moment, but it is temporary.

Overall XJT has a lot of need right now. If you come you will be put where you are needed, not where you choose to be.

Sorry if this is bad news to anyone. Just trying to maintain honesty and transparency.

All eyes currently on the Mesa contracts and the 20 new 175s arriving April 2020. Also coinciding with the latest System bid effective date.

I don’t believe that is a coincidence.

Expect changes weekly. Things are very fluid for all United regionals at the moment. They will have to play their cards soon.

Safe to assume IF Compass is able to secure UAL flying those remaining 175s will not be coming. Thoughts?

Arliss 08-17-2019 03:53 AM

System bid effective dates are virtually meaningless. The 145 captain awards will start training between October 7 and November 18, well short of April 2020. Likely the same for those awarded 175.

DoSomePilotStuf 08-17-2019 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Av8tor8710 (Post 2871603)
Safe to assume IF Compass is able to secure UAL flying those remaining 175s will not be coming. Thoughts?

I think XJT gets the 20 new ones either way but it’s a guess. Compass picks up the Mesa flying or goes down the tubes if Mesa keeps them.

PhantomHawk 08-17-2019 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2871703)
I think XJT gets the 20 new ones either way but it’s a guess. Compass picks up the Mesa flying or goes down the tubes if Mesa keeps them.

Here comes Melit....

UnitedExpress 08-17-2019 04:39 PM

What are the chances that XJT picks up the Mesa flying?

Lebron 08-18-2019 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by UnitedExpress (Post 2871912)
What are the chances that XJT picks up the Mesa flying?

Doubtful to be all the aircraft but could be a few aircraft sent over time.

DoSomePilotStuf 08-18-2019 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by Lebron (Post 2872063)
Doubtful to be all the aircraft but could be a few aircraft sent over time.

I think this is correct. The training department is built to train about 30 pilots per month. Maybe 40 max. With attrition that’s only enough to staff 2-3 per month. I think we have that many continue to come online, but if we got both the 20 new planes as well as Mesa contracts that would be more like 4-5 planes a month and we are just not equipped to handle that many that fast.

Anything is possible though. There is a rumor floating around that another 175 sim is going up in IAH. I think it’s just a rumor, but if true that would put us in position to take both.

Southern Fried 08-18-2019 11:42 AM

XJT Training Center
 
The XJT training center was physically smaller than it is today when I got hired. It had one sim and one about to be installed. The cabin trainer hadn't been installed yet.
We had a class 0f 36 new hires in indoc every two weeks. We also had upgrades on 3 different types in progress at the same time. All of that while training mechanics, dispatchers, and flight attendants. There was very little, if any delay in training back then.
I'm pretty sure our training center can handle way more than 40 new hires a month now with 2 145 sims (room for a 3rd) and one 175 sim (room for ? more) and a cabin trainer for each.
The capacity is mainly driven by the number of instructors. They are working on that as we speak.

DoSomePilotStuf 08-18-2019 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Southern Fried (Post 2872223)
The XJT training center was physically smaller than it is today when I got hired. It had one sim and one about to be installed. The cabin trainer hadn't been installed yet.
We had a class 0f 36 new hires in indoc every two weeks. We also had upgrades on 3 different types in progress at the same time. All of that while training mechanics, dispatchers, and flight attendants. There was very little, if any delay in training back then.
I'm pretty sure our training center can handle way more than 40 new hires a month now with 2 145 sims (room for a 3rd) and one 175 sim (room for ? more) and a cabin trainer for each.
The capacity is mainly driven by the number of instructors. They are working on that as we speak.

3rd 145 sim being moved from Hobby.

PhantomHawk 08-18-2019 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2872276)
3rd 145 sim being moved from Hobby.

I did my initial qual on that sim. It’s like a Commodore 64 with hydraulics installed.


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