Most Jr CA award by base
 

There has been some misinformation spread recently about upgrade times. Just wanted to post some actual dates.

These are all 145 upgrades. Until more 175s arrive CA award is very senior on that airplane.

EWR - 10/16
CLE - 1/16
IAH - 4/14
ORD - 8/13
TYS - 11/00

The upgrade times continue to drop rapidly. The next bid will bring lots of smiles!

By next summer we will be down to an 18 month upgrade. You heard it here first!

how long to hold a line at all these spots? You need PIC hours not just CA award.

My perspective. RSV CA from March till 1 August and I flew a block 420hrs and all but 30 was from the left seat.

Obviously that depends on the base. The more Jr bases will have better opportunities. IAH is becoming more Jr all the time.

These are not awards. Period. They are base trades's. You've tried this little tactic before and failed. Yes, the numbers will come down in ORD and IAH but they haven't yet. 19-04 is the last bid.

DoSomePilotStuff:

"In the pursuit of actual FACTS, the most Jr captain at IAH is a 7/14 hire and the most Jr at ORD is a 8/13 hire. So 5&6 years, not 8 and 10. Also similar to where the EWR upgrade was only a few months ago.

Smoke and mirrors indeed.

Anymore lies you’d like to tell?"

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/e...et-base-5.html

These are the Awards as of the last bid:

Most junior Bid 19-04 upgrade :

EWR: 2 yrs, 10 months
CLE: 3 yrs, 6 months.
ORD: 10 yrs, 2 months
IAH: 12 yrs, 6 months
TYS: No upgrades (extremely, extremely senior and tiny base) (6 Lines)

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/e...time-base.html

If the company wants to hold some more upgrades and award some more junior people they can advertise upgrade in these bases as such. A base trade means nothing.

Keep spreading misinformation.

Did you pass the hogan yet? Or are they still not sending them out ?

How long in IAH to hold a line?

Captain or F/O? Think last time I looked for F/O it was 4 months or so. Pretty good.

I guess you will need to explain to me what difference that makes to the person hired in 4/14, or the other 93 CAs in IAH hired between the person you are referring to and the most Jr CA.

What you are saying is that the most Jr CA to go straight from right seat at IAH to left seat while remaining at IAH took 12+ years. That person will also have to explain why they bypassed so many upgrade opportunities at any interview they may get at a legacy.

Again, what you see is a disconnect between what matters to a new hire (rapid movement) and what matters to someone who never plans to leave the regionals (when can I upgrade without moving/commuting). The chasm between the two trains of thought is enormous.

Simple. The base trade is an outlier. They got LUCKY in the fact that someone wanted to base trade from Houston to Newark. It's that simple. Nobody advertises upgrade off base trades. That is a trade between them and someone else at the company. It holds no water when it comes time to bid.

The point is that you're grasping at straws to paint your little picture. It's extremely shady.

Bids are what determine upgrade time. Period.