Considerations on coming to XJT??
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I'm weighing my options and trying to rank order which regional to choose - did my first interview and got a CJO, I suspect that I will get an offer from each that I'm considering. I'm interested in some feedback on XJT.
I won't be able to attend training until November (retiring form military) so I know a lot can and will change - but where things are now and some thoughts on then would be great.
about me - I live in Austin, will have to commute unless I can get IAH - and would prefer the EJET if possible. I have 4700 TT with 1300 TPIC (includes instructor time) in ME TurboProp (king air).
What is reserve like - is it long call or ready reserve and what is a conservative guess on how long on reserve. Also, what is flying time like on reserve - i'll likely have to commute, maybe not, but if I do, I don't want to be on reserve somewhere and not flying - I hear this is happening a lot a Envoy.
How is training and QOL?
How long for upgrade? (I have 500 hours in creditable from military toward the 1000 hour requirement)
I'm not really considering WO because flow in 'who knows how long', if ever, seems crazy to base a decision on.
I've been considering (and some of the reasons why):
TSA (BIG bonus 35K after IOE, 15K at yr one; short reserve if any, and reserves are flying, quick upgrade).
XJT (27K bonus upfront, i'm told quick reserve if any, IAH and option)
RAH (all EJET, fly for all 3 mains, pretty reputable and seemingly growing company, IAH an option) - but have no idea about reserve time - QOL seems to be good based on what I read on APC.
Mesa (AA/UAX flying option, DFW and IAH and option)
Thanks in advance!
I won't be able to attend training until November (retiring form military) so I know a lot can and will change - but where things are now and some thoughts on then would be great.
about me - I live in Austin, will have to commute unless I can get IAH - and would prefer the EJET if possible. I have 4700 TT with 1300 TPIC (includes instructor time) in ME TurboProp (king air).
What is reserve like - is it long call or ready reserve and what is a conservative guess on how long on reserve. Also, what is flying time like on reserve - i'll likely have to commute, maybe not, but if I do, I don't want to be on reserve somewhere and not flying - I hear this is happening a lot a Envoy.
How is training and QOL?
How long for upgrade? (I have 500 hours in creditable from military toward the 1000 hour requirement)
I'm not really considering WO because flow in 'who knows how long', if ever, seems crazy to base a decision on.
I've been considering (and some of the reasons why):
TSA (BIG bonus 35K after IOE, 15K at yr one; short reserve if any, and reserves are flying, quick upgrade).
XJT (27K bonus upfront, i'm told quick reserve if any, IAH and option)
RAH (all EJET, fly for all 3 mains, pretty reputable and seemingly growing company, IAH an option) - but have no idea about reserve time - QOL seems to be good based on what I read on APC.
Mesa (AA/UAX flying option, DFW and IAH and option)
Thanks in advance!
In terms of upgrade, you will get it at 500 hrs. We need captains worse than we need FOs.
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The December announcement rumor is coming from an email from the union a while back. They were hoping to have the agreement in principle for letter 2 completed on December 12. That’s why people thing there’s going to be a big announcement.
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You will fly a lot here. A few months max on reserve. Reserves fly a lot more on the 145 right now because not all the 175s are in service yet. When they are everyone here will be flying a lot. The company can no longer afford to over staff the 175 at the expense of the 145. We have 30 145s parked in need of pilots. Everyone who comes here will fly their butts off.
In terms of upgrade, you will get it at 500 hrs. We need captains worse than we need FOs.
In terms of upgrade, you will get it at 500 hrs. We need captains worse than we need FOs.
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Definitely attrition. I’ve moved up about 230 spots on the list since my hire date and just got done with training. On a list of about 1400 that’s 16% of movement before even really hitting the line.
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I'm weighing my options and trying to rank order which regional to choose - did my first interview and got a CJO, I suspect that I will get an offer from each that I'm considering. I'm interested in some feedback on XJT.
I won't be able to attend training until November (retiring form military) so I know a lot can and will change - but where things are now and some thoughts on then would be great.
about me - I live in Austin, will have to commute unless I can get IAH - and would prefer the EJET if possible. I have 4700 TT with 1300 TPIC (includes instructor time) in ME TurboProp (king air).
What is reserve like - is it long call or ready reserve and what is a conservative guess on how long on reserve. Also, what is flying time like on reserve - i'll likely have to commute, maybe not, but if I do, I don't want to be on reserve somewhere and not flying - I hear this is happening a lot a Envoy.
How is training and QOL?
How long for upgrade? (I have 500 hours in creditable from military toward the 1000 hour requirement)
I'm not really considering WO because flow in 'who knows how long', if ever, seems crazy to base a decision on.
I've been considering (and some of the reasons why):
TSA (BIG bonus 35K after IOE, 15K at yr one; short reserve if any, and reserves are flying, quick upgrade).
XJT (27K bonus upfront, i'm told quick reserve if any, IAH and option)
RAH (all EJET, fly for all 3 mains, pretty reputable and seemingly growing company, IAH an option) - but have no idea about reserve time - QOL seems to be good based on what I read on APC.
Mesa (AA/UAX flying option, DFW and IAH and option)
Thanks in advance!
I won't be able to attend training until November (retiring form military) so I know a lot can and will change - but where things are now and some thoughts on then would be great.
about me - I live in Austin, will have to commute unless I can get IAH - and would prefer the EJET if possible. I have 4700 TT with 1300 TPIC (includes instructor time) in ME TurboProp (king air).
What is reserve like - is it long call or ready reserve and what is a conservative guess on how long on reserve. Also, what is flying time like on reserve - i'll likely have to commute, maybe not, but if I do, I don't want to be on reserve somewhere and not flying - I hear this is happening a lot a Envoy.
How is training and QOL?
How long for upgrade? (I have 500 hours in creditable from military toward the 1000 hour requirement)
I'm not really considering WO because flow in 'who knows how long', if ever, seems crazy to base a decision on.
I've been considering (and some of the reasons why):
TSA (BIG bonus 35K after IOE, 15K at yr one; short reserve if any, and reserves are flying, quick upgrade).
XJT (27K bonus upfront, i'm told quick reserve if any, IAH and option)
RAH (all EJET, fly for all 3 mains, pretty reputable and seemingly growing company, IAH an option) - but have no idea about reserve time - QOL seems to be good based on what I read on APC.
Mesa (AA/UAX flying option, DFW and IAH and option)
Thanks in advance!
I have friends at many regionals and they all say the same. Not saying everyone regrets their decision, but a lot of people do.
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There’s your announcement...,
12 December 2019
Today marks the one-year anniversary of the signing of Contract 2018. Letter 2, an integral part of Contract 2018, is an agreement between the Association and XJT management to return to negotiations "shortly after" the ratification of Contract 2018 in order to continue negotiations for those areas of the contract that the parties did not have time to explore prior to its ratification.
Exactly one year later, we are disappointed to report that The Deal is STILL Not Done.
Throughout Letter 2 negotiations, the company has maintained a number of significant concessionary asks, yet to date has offered very little in return. By the end of this week's bargaining session, the company's proposal included four concessionary items.
Your XJT Negotiating Committee's proposal contains several much-needed items that address quality of life, and items that would have made ExpressJet competitive for attracting and retaining pilots.
To date, our flight and ground instructors have yet to be provided an opportunity to discuss and negotiate their proposed items. A meeting was scheduled and confirmed by the company on two separate occasions to do just that, only to be cancelled by the company with only two business days' notice. On the final day of our bargaining session this week, the company offered a few days at the end of January to negotiate flight and ground instructor items. When asked when the company will have a response to the Negotiating Committee's current proposal, the company representatives stated that it would not respond until we meet in January.
The Negotiating Committee has continuously requested additional bargaining dates to continue Letter 2 negotiations. The company's unwillingness to dedicate the time necessary to come to a negotiated solution in a timely manner is concerning. To say we are disappointed with the lack of progress and the company's seeming lack of commitment or interest in getting to a deal would be an understatement. Our pilots, flight instructors and ground instructors deserve better.
12 December 2019
Today marks the one-year anniversary of the signing of Contract 2018. Letter 2, an integral part of Contract 2018, is an agreement between the Association and XJT management to return to negotiations "shortly after" the ratification of Contract 2018 in order to continue negotiations for those areas of the contract that the parties did not have time to explore prior to its ratification.
Exactly one year later, we are disappointed to report that The Deal is STILL Not Done.
Throughout Letter 2 negotiations, the company has maintained a number of significant concessionary asks, yet to date has offered very little in return. By the end of this week's bargaining session, the company's proposal included four concessionary items.
Your XJT Negotiating Committee's proposal contains several much-needed items that address quality of life, and items that would have made ExpressJet competitive for attracting and retaining pilots.
To date, our flight and ground instructors have yet to be provided an opportunity to discuss and negotiate their proposed items. A meeting was scheduled and confirmed by the company on two separate occasions to do just that, only to be cancelled by the company with only two business days' notice. On the final day of our bargaining session this week, the company offered a few days at the end of January to negotiate flight and ground instructor items. When asked when the company will have a response to the Negotiating Committee's current proposal, the company representatives stated that it would not respond until we meet in January.
The Negotiating Committee has continuously requested additional bargaining dates to continue Letter 2 negotiations. The company's unwillingness to dedicate the time necessary to come to a negotiated solution in a timely manner is concerning. To say we are disappointed with the lack of progress and the company's seeming lack of commitment or interest in getting to a deal would be an understatement. Our pilots, flight instructors and ground instructors deserve better.
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