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SureJetStick 08-15-2020 05:56 AM

C5 Mgt Wonít hire XJT?
 
Is this true?

SeeYa 08-15-2020 05:57 AM

I donít know. Where are you hearing this

falconkidding 08-15-2020 06:12 AM

Union email
Although CommutAir seems to be planning quick growth of both aircraft and bases, and we are working with their MEC to provide our pilots some sort of leg up at their airline, it is our understanding that their management team is against any direct help to our pilot group at this time.

SeeYa 08-15-2020 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falconkidding (Post 3110263)
Union email
Although CommutAir seems to be planning quick growth of both aircraft and bases, and we are working with their MEC to provide our pilots some sort of leg up at their airline, it is our understanding that their management team is against any direct help to our pilot group at this time.

oh yeah, dunno how I missed that
https://i.imgur.com/a6cPf32.png

rickair7777 08-15-2020 06:36 AM

"Management Team is against any direct help" means, at face value, that they don't want to establish any sort of flow, preferential interview, etc.

Doesn't specifically state that they don't want to hire EV alumni. There would actually be no legit business reason (and thus liability exposure) to specifically exclude EV people, especially since they have very relevant type experience (as well as "United Express Experience", which as you may recall has been used as a regional hiring criteria in the past).

Time will tell how they really feel.

tallpilot 08-15-2020 07:13 AM

My guess would be they are against incentives or guarantees. They (rightfully) realize it's a buyer's market for pilots and they have no intention of paying a dime more than what is in the current contract. They have indicated they wish to hire the most qualified applicants they can. Certainly typed and current pilots meet that standard.

They are wary (rightfully again) of having bitter pilots sabotaging the operation. The hardest thing is going to be eating this crap sandwich and still being a team player. I'm not sure I could do it so I won't be sanctimonious about it.

If you interview try your best to be cheerful, appreciative and don't reveal a sense of entitlement. That will give you the best chance.

JohnnyBekkestad 08-15-2020 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3110289)
My guess would be they are against incentives or guarantees. They (rightfully) realize it's a buyer's market for pilots and they have no intention of paying a dime more than what is in the current contract. They have indicated they wish to hire the most qualified applicants they can. Certainly typed and current pilots meet that standard.

They are wary (rightfully again) of having bitter pilots sabotaging the operation. The hardest thing is going to be eating this crap sandwich and still being a team player. I'm not sure I could do it so I won't be sanctimonious about it.

If you interview try your best to be cheerful, appreciative and don't reveal a sense of entitlement. That will give you the best chance.

Also there might be problems with different pay scales

jacburn 08-15-2020 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureJetStick (Post 3110256)
Is this true?

Not true. The company isn't going to just staple everyone to the bottom of the list or hire everyone from XJT that applies either.

tallpilot 08-15-2020 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad (Post 3110306)
Also there might be problems with different pay scales

The FOs are about to take a pretty significant pay cut and the union doesn't have any leverage to stop it. Giving new hires any sort of incentive pay in that environment is only going to exacerbate discontent.

dmspilot 08-15-2020 09:49 AM

"Direct help" sounds like preferential treatment. Management isn't against hiring XJT pilots. My understanding is C5 is giving UAL and UAX pilots preferential interviews but that's it.


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