Ha! Me too. Can't wait to see someone else do this BS!!

Well, mission accomplished with PBS........for Mgt

The WORST schedule I EVER had with line bidding was crappy 4 days over the weekend.

Now, I have 2 five days, a three day and a SIX DAY!! Before anyone chimes in that we don't have five or six day trips, your right. Two days were tacked on before my three and four day trips. Some of the 3 days are blocked at a whopping 8 hours. LOTS of sitting around in hotels, away from home.

The union and pilot group are so drunk with koolade they just say "you should learn how to bid" Well, there are a lot of us with these 5 and 6 day trips on our schedule.

Net result is that I have 4 less days off than i would under line bidding

Congratulations to Brad Holt, he played our pilot group like a fiddle. The senior guys get what they want, and many guys on reserve get a line, so they are awesome PBS salespeople. The reserve guys are like dogs beaten for a couple of years. They are soooooo happy to get a bone it's like winning the lottery.

Us in the middle not so much.

Mgt WILL turn the screws much worse on PBS once it is voted in on property. Vote NO!!!!

Well, and somer knows this, but it only takes a few of us to filter a new attitude.

Ask more from your elected representatives, ask more from your volunteers...and if you feel comfortable enough, seek out some opportunities to help the pilot group yourselves. I can't speak for XJT, but I know we at ASA are going to need every able body person to help us achieve whatever contract goals our JNC is going after...

The fight isn't within our pilot groups, it's with those who don't respect labor and the services we provide. Don't be fooled by these BBQ's and One Team slogans.

But hey - Thanks gents. :)

I have the utmost respect for rampers, agents, cleaners, etc.....However do NOT stick me in that category as far as importance to an airline operation. We are more important than that. Why some people can't see that is beyond me. Don't like it? Go to the local airport and get a discovery flight. Then Solo, Private ticket.............on and on until you can fly this airplane for the company.

I've been called a "poor silly soul" by former management for wanting to do my job AND get paid properly for it, yet management has no problems bringing in and paying "top talent to retain their services".

A popular phrase comes to mind: "This would be a great airline if it weren't for the pilots!"

I am sure you are not happy with your schedule. BUT you can not speak for everyone. I (and alot of FO's i know) have BETTER schedules now than with line bidding. I am around 50% on the -200 (FO). I have straight 4 days...weekends off...14 days off..and 92 hours of credit. I agree with you though...there seems to be too many loopholes in the system. We def need to clean those up on the next contract. And its been said before....i believe alot of the problems have to do with the pairing construction. PBS has nothing to do with pairings and the variety of them that are created.

Just my two cents. There are two sides to every coin....

Is that directed at me or just a general statement because I already fly for us.... :D YES RRR just started....

don't you worry about transfer of flying?

I think past events have proven that management will get what they want irregardless of a scope clause or any form of agreement. We have protections in ASA's contract and in the Transfer and Process Agreement with XJT but it would probably take a crafty lawyer a couple of hours to figure out the loop holes in either. The threat of a whipshaw is definitely alive and well and the leverage to secure air tight language isn't there.

skw is currently flying in IAH replacing xjt crews and xjt is flying in ord replacing skw crews.... in my opinion it is a hint of things to come.