Maybe but from where i'm sitting, it looks as if ASA management took over everything and it is basically ASA with a new name.

Don't get me wrong, ASA was a bad name with an even worse reputation but you have to understand why some ASA people are angry.

Agreed. Unfortunately for us XJT guys ASA are doing everything their own way regardless of whether our way was better. Why can't our management team just cherry pick the best practices of both companies and move forward in creating a happy and harmonious company? This 'our way or the highway' stuff isn't doing much to endear ASA to the guys at XJT.

That's not all, I hear the unions can even make nice.

It gets beat to death man, but ASA did NOT purchase XJT, Inc. purchased XJT.

As far as being "removed and replaced", it's ONLY aesthetic things. You'd be surprised at how much things on the XJT side are changing as far as things like FOM/CFM procedures, as well as our tailored Jepps, etc. So even though it may cause pain and discomfort to lose the name of a regional airline, the XJT side of the house has to inherit the crappy schedulers and the crappy Sked+. It (Sked+) has some cool features, but it's not as good as the previous stuff XJT used. So in reality, who is having things "replaced"?

See what you're saying, but it's a bit of a funny thing. Why in the heck should ANYBODY care if the name changes? The goal of the regional is to get in, get your time, and GTFO ASAP. So when you move on to wherever your career destination is, you won't even care about all the silly drama that occurred.

While I really don't care what we are called, I think its strange that our side (skywest inc so I don't hurt any feelings) bought their side and we are taking they're name. IMO it should have remained ASA, regardless of reputation. Should all be Skywest, but that another story. Just an opinion. You really think our mainline partners are gonna suddenly and magically forget about our reputation because we changed our name to ExpressJet? Our performance is still terrible, maintenance issues out the wazoo, our scheduling sucks, and now we're loosing airplanes. In other words, ASA is still gonna be ASA, even with the name ExpressJet. This whole thing is getting ugly.

I really hope after the merger is complete at the end of the year, management can get they're head back in the game and clean this place up. Not holding my breath. Now we have to worry about getting displaced/furloughed/pushed down to reserve for infinity.

I think once expressjet gets their house in order.

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Other than the name, what else is being replaced by ExpressJet? By the way, it was Skywest who bought XJT.

It's like when you give your kid $3,000 to buy a car and he goes around saying "I bought a car"

Who cares? Why does everybody need to keep correcting someone when they say ASA bought XJT? We all know that Skywest owns the whole thing. The fact is, XJT got bought. ExpressJet is now one with ASA, not Skywest, no matter how much you hate it or lie to yourself that you are with Skywest. ASA (oh sorry, ExpressJet for all you sensitive little girls out there) and Skywest are two completely different companies. What does it matter!? Geez... end rant

And why are you so sensitive about being corrected? Some people go around and correct other's spelling and grammar. I guess I go around correcting misinformation about Skywest buying ExpressJet. Anyways, I rather we weren't associated with Skywest anyways but my say doesn't count for crap. I wish we really were two separate companies and not just a shell game company. So, no, I don't lie to myself that I'm with Skywest because I rather be independent.

Yeah the spelling thing is dumb too. I'm not sensitive, just tired of people crying about it and acting like spoiled little children. ASA didn't buy us, Skywest did, wah wah you hurt my feelings, you didn't say it right. Shut up. Act like a grown up. Who cares and move on.

Seems like it bothers you more. Why don't you and those who keep perpetuating untruths move on? Skywest bought XJT, not ASA. Get over it already. We are both doomed to the same fate now! Now prove me right and reply to my post.;)

Actually a lot of people care. It's makes a difference. Not sure if you are an F.O. but I'm sure you were at one point. Remember how it felt when people said "you aren't a REAL pilot" or "since you aren't THE pilot you probably don't get to fly". It's the principle of the matter. It's kind of annoying when people sound arrogant when they are supposed to be professionals. "We bought you!" sounds totally arrogant when it's not true. I hear it a lot from ASA guys.

Meanwhile, the newhires read this stupid infighting and think they signed on for


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Don't worry If you don't' fly an airplane made by either Boeing or airbus you're not a real airline pilot you're probably just a contract pilot.

Sounds like someone has a Superiority Complex. Now go jackoff to how you called it that I would reply to your post.

Yeah I hear what your saying. That's not right for people at ASA to think they are better in some way because they think ASA bought XJT. It sounds very arrogant, I agree, and it needs to stop. My thing was that we all know the truth. So why are we still arguing over this stupid crap? Playing this, I can **** further then you school yard crap. Why are some letting a couple of jackasses at ASA get to them? How about we just ignore those people and move on like professional like you said.

Yup, called it.

The thing is that there are people who actually believe this because they buy the management propaganda. Call it arguing if it makes you feel superior to us that are just calling it the way it really is. It's just a simply correcting inaccuracies.

I'll tell you guys what will be great, we take our sweet time in negotiations, we (XJT) continue to operate under our contract, rejecting any TA inferior to our current contract, and we let the egos eat themselves up at the top. PBS- shove it up your ass.
Mediocre health benefits - up your ass
Horrible vacation clause - up your ass
Horrible pay rates for equipment size and type - up your ass

Yeah we want the world of our contract plus increases, anything else is not acceptable. This would also benefit the ASA pilots, so for the idiot that said we want the world, he should realize what he/she stands to gain. Welcome to ExpressJet.

Hear hear!! Bravo.

Yes we are operating on the ASA Cert and we are keeping Acey. Email came out today.

Wow! Seems like you know EVERYTHING! And you were soooo certain......

Well, according the Company email, you officially have no idea what your talking about. Congrats.