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Nope. Based in DTW. Don't get to go to any of those cities... And I haven't had a MSP overnight in a LONG time.
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Originally Posted by unit monster
(Post 1121738)
Hi GoAround -
Why have you not responded to my PM from a few weeks ago? Or responded within a thread after I posed the question twice. "Where was it that you witnessed the ASA MEC walk out of some kind of joint meeting?" This isn't unusual really...The CAL and UAL MECs are starting to air their dirty laundry in public...How about USAIR/AWA or AirTran/SWA? Why do you find it surprising? or Why are you trying to make it go away? |
Originally Posted by goaround2000
(Post 1121952)
Really? You're going to base your decision to improve your life on anonymous posts? You guys are really institutionalized. Consider this:
Because you don't have a legal bargaining entity representing you or a contract, you guys have subpar medical benefits, no legal recourse on pay or work rule violations, no punitive protection from incidents or accidents (only certificate), forget the list, get with the times first, get a union any union. We talk when you guys get your house in order. It seems to me, and most other observers of this business, that your house was the one that was not in order and it was the company you mock that has wiped up your mess. Instead of being thankful, you bite the hand that helps you. XJT was not going to be around much longer and no serious person can say otherwise with a strait face. When there is a payroll conflict at SW, most of the guys pick up the phone and talk with payroll. Simple. Efficient. If you can't reach an agreement, a form is filled out and the reps take it to the next step to get resolution. Now I'm not pretending there aren't issues at SW, particularly in the disciplining arena. But, there are dozens and dozens of policies that have been negotiated quickly and efficiently to the mutual benefit of both the company and the pilots. . To the original question, one list, one independent union, limited fences for a year or so. |
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1122066)
I don't know where goaround got his information, but I have had it confirmed by two separate members of the ASA MEC...It got quite ugly....
This isn't unusual really...The CAL and UAL MECs are starting to air their dirty laundry in public...How about USAIR/AWA or AirTran/SWA? Why do you find it surprising? or Why are you trying to make it go away? GoAround threw that little tidbit out there and then chose not to address it. I questioned his credibility because he chose to ignore my requests for details multiple times. Unfortunately I feel like I'm on my own side in all of this, which isn't good for any of us. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 1121624)
That's fairly inflammatory. This kind of discussion is one of the reasons it's so hard to GET a union at SKW...it alienates people.
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 1119178)
PBS is coming whether you like it or not. Instead of thumping your chest like a monkey about it, better start thinking how to preserve an equivalent amount of vacation with PBS.
When you do that, it makes it hard to see things the way SKW people do and kind of alienates people :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by xjtguy
(Post 1122350)
Pot, meet kettle. When you posted this in another thread;
Not only was it inflammatory, it was flat out ignorant. When you do that, it makes it hard to see things the way SKW people do and kind of alienates people :rolleyes: Don't assume one junior guy represents every crewmember in this company!:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
(Post 1121563)
One list. If we have a union, it needs to be independent. Couldn't care less about the fences either way.
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If you want one list, then the ASA/XJT will have to make the legal case to the NMB. Otherwise, the only other way is for Skywest pilots to unionize. Then there might be a possibility. Until then, its moot since JA seems to always use the "my pilots don't want a union" card.
By the way, not having fences does NOT mean that you will be displaced. There has to be a vacancy for a pilot to bid into any aircraft, base, and seat. That is your base (and aircraft and seat) protection. You cannot be forced out of your base, aircraft, or seat. People need to educate themselves a little before saying things that are not true. |
Im gona move to Utah and make beer and sell it to you guys. Hey, do you guys drink beer?
This is a waste of time this thread just like me trying to sell you guys beer. You guy need to forget SW and focus on our contract. |
Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
(Post 1122069)
It seems to me, and most other observers of this business, that your house was the one that was not in order and it was the company you mock that has wiped up your mess. Instead of being thankful, you bite the hand that helps you. XJT was not going to be around much longer and no serious person can say otherwise with a strait face.
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