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Eck4Life 04-17-2013 08:11 AM

Expressjet & TSA JS
 
A few quick questions for you Expressjet guys/gals in the know. I'll be travelling IAH-ZIH in a little bit and was interested in jumpseating.

Do you take offline jumps to Mexico in the first place? I know I won't have access to the cockpit JS.

Do I need to list? What about when leaving Mexico?

Do you take as many jumpseaters as there are open seats in the back?

For the TSA folks, I might jumpseat home on you IAH-XXX. Listing needed?

Thanks in advance from an out of practice guy.

RgrMurdock 04-17-2013 01:17 PM

You don't need to list to Jumpseat at tsa.

Eck4Life 04-18-2013 07:34 PM

Thanks for the info.

Time to bump this. Any ExpressJet folks want to weigh in?

ingleburg5 04-19-2013 04:02 PM

ExpressJet E-145's cannot take any offline jumpseaters internationally. All jumpseating for the ExpressJet United operation is handled via paper form, and no computer listing entries are made except for CASS. Since it is via paper form, there is no way to add a jumpseater on the Gen Dec. Therefore, no offline jumpseaters are allowed in the cockpit or cabin. The only way to travel on ExpressJet internationally is through offline travel agreements such as Zed fares. Within the United States though ExpressJet will take unlimited jumpseaters if there is space available.

TBucket 04-19-2013 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by ingleburg5 (Post 1394616)
ExpressJet E-145's cannot take any offline jumpseaters internationally. All jumpseating for the ExpressJet United operation is handled via paper form, and no computer listing entries are made except for CASS. Since it is via paper form, there is no way to add a jumpseater on the Gen Dec. Therefore, no offline jumpseaters are allowed in the cockpit or cabin. The only way to travel on ExpressJet internationally is through offline travel agreements such as Zed fares. Within the United States though ExpressJet will take unlimited jumpseaters if there is space available.


This sucks, given the upcoming screw-job of a pass program UAL is forcing on people.

ingleburg5 04-19-2013 06:04 PM

I should clarify that you may still pass ride on ExpressJet internationally as long as you have United pass benefits. That may have been self explanatory, but I don't want any misunderstanding.

TBucket 04-19-2013 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by ingleburg5 (Post 1394692)
I should clarify that you may still pass ride on ExpressJet internationally as long as you have United pass benefits. That may have been self explanatory, but I don't want any misunderstanding.


Yeah, at the low low price of an extra $50 per leg on top of departure taxes...

Eck4Life 04-20-2013 07:48 AM

Thanks big time ingleburg! You just saved me a big headache with my wife in tow. Your response is what makes this board such a great resource. Once again, thank you for taking the time to respond.

WarpSpeed 04-20-2013 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 1394653)
This sucks, given the upcoming screw-job of a pass program UAL is forcing on people.

Has TSA sent out a memo on this yet?

TBucket 04-20-2013 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by WarpSpeed (Post 1394989)
Has TSA sent out a memo on this yet?

Nothing official, yet.

FlyitB 04-21-2013 04:53 AM

Is that just an ExpressJet jumpseat rule? I have ridden on UAL/CAL in the last few months internationally and I don't have UAL Bennies. IN THE BACK of course!


Just got to the Hub Airport early..(IE: EWR 3 hours prior)
-Went to the main ticket counter our front. They got me listed
-Then went to the gate at least 60mins prior
-Did the stupid paper form
-Boarded and checked in with the crew.
DONE

ingleburg5 04-21-2013 05:52 AM

It is not so much an ExpressJet rule as it is a United software limitation in how their system handles jumpseats on express carriers. The United software allows for an electronic listing for mainline flights but not on express flights, which means they can accept international jumpseaters. There are ways around this limitation as ExpressJet pilots can jumpseat internationally on their own flights, as long as a listing is made through their company, but to avoid any penalties or fines it is easier to say no international jumpseating than to try and verify an appropriate listing has been made.


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