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barabek 05-20-2013 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 1412567)
I live in DEN and am thinking about trying to get on with ExpressJet in hopes of the new DEN domicile.

I really would love to make the jump to XJet if I could hold DEN, but not interested in commuting. I really would appreciate any input or guesses as to how junior or senior DEN will be, and if there is any chance a new hire could hold it? Thanks


Sorry to give you a bad news, but don't plan on getting DEN base out of training. This is going to be a very senior base. Right now it looks like 2007 hire FOs are gonna be sitting reserve there. I'm Feb.2011 hire and probably wouldn't be able to hold it at all (not even trying since I can comfortably hold a line in any other base). It may all change since the bidding is not over and some 6+ year senior FOs may get to their senses and realize that commuting to a reserve as a senior FO is rather stupid and will change their bids. Regardless, don't count on it. What you can count on is MCI being a very junior base with very little interenst and I can imagine an easy commute from DEN. Good luck!

flynd94 05-20-2013 03:33 PM

You also never know. When I was hired in 2007 we all thought we would be headed out west but I managed IAH with 4 other classmates.

freezingflyboy 05-20-2013 08:05 PM

Sooooo am I missing something? I got the myMessage about people who have to rebid vacation because of the system bid but I haven't seen anything about the results of the system bid... Any help for the dummy?

barabek 05-20-2013 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 1413114)
Sooooo am I missing something? I got the myMessage about people who have to rebid vacation because of the system bid but I haven't seen anything about the results of the system bid... Any help for the dummy?


That's concerning the last system bid (13-08) that came out in March after the upgrades and hiring annoucement. If you didn't change your base it does not concern you.

freezingflyboy 05-21-2013 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by barabek (Post 1413145)
That's concerning the last system bid (13-08) that came out in March after the upgrades and hiring annoucement. If you didn't change your base it does not concern you.

Ok...I gotcha. I got the system bids mixed up. Still can't find where it says specifically when this latest bid with the new bases closes.

PilotGuy77 07-23-2013 09:44 AM

Did IAD open yet? Is it senior for FOs?

trickeriche 07-23-2013 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by PilotGuy77 (Post 1450068)
Did IAD open yet? Is it senior for FOs?

No, September bid period. No, the only new base that went senior was DEN.

l1011 07-23-2013 11:36 AM

So with the new bases what is the new junior fo base? Where does ewr sit in the order?

trickeriche 07-23-2013 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by l1011 (Post 1450173)
So with the new bases what is the new junior fo base? Where does ewr sit in the order?

Junior=MCI,IAD,EWR(probably in that order, but any new hire will be able to get any one of the three right out of training)
Not so Junior=CLE,IAH,ORD(getting one of these three will take a little bit of time, but should be doable in 6-12 months, if not sooner)
Ridiculously Senior=DEN(while it will change, the most junior pilot in the original bid was a 2007 hire)

PilotGuy77 07-23-2013 04:29 PM

Thank you for the information. How firm do you think they are on the 100 hours in the last 12. Flying out of my own pocket now to keep current.... :(

Jaxs170 07-24-2013 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by PilotGuy77 (Post 1450381)
Thank you for the information. How firm do you think they are on the 100 hours in the last 12. Flying out of my own pocket now to keep current.... :(

They waived it for me, and this was back when they were telling current/qualified Colgan folks TBNT. Your best bet is to put your application in and then try to get in touch with someone in recruiting (I conversed with a guy with the initials DC, but I have no idea if he's still around) to let them know what your situation is.

Considering they can't fill classes, I'd say you at least have a shot at getting an interview if your resume is descent (JMHO).

PilotGuy77 07-24-2013 04:52 AM

Awesome thank you! :) I am putting my feelers out to this site to see what the regionals are doing in terms of hiring. Thank you again!

JerkStore 11-20-2013 02:26 AM

Any updates to this? I haven't applied at Expressjet just yet, but if I did I would want IAD out of training. Has this been the trend for new hires?

yimke 11-20-2013 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by JerkStore (Post 1523843)
Any updates to this? I haven't applied at Expressjet just yet, but if I did I would want IAD out of training. Has this been the trend for new hires?

It is a pretty junior base. If you dont get it out of training, you will be able to base trade for it.

Squawk87 11-20-2013 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by yimke (Post 1523850)
It is a pretty junior base. If you dont get it out of training, you will be able to base trade for it.

It's fairly junior BUT it's only 60 FO's... It's not that easy to get Dulles right out of training. It's almost impossible to base trade for Dulles ( check how many people tried to get Dulles vs leave Dulles according to the last base trade).

My guess, you will be able to hold IAD within 6-12 months from the time you get hired.

Hurryage65 11-20-2013 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by JerkStore (Post 1523843)
Any updates to this? I haven't applied at Expressjet just yet, but if I did I would want IAD out of training. Has this been the trend for new hires?

They just had to TDY people up to dulles last month, new hires are going there now and always since it's the junior base you will definitely get it out of training and if not very soon after

Jaxs170 11-20-2013 06:41 AM

For the CRJ side of the house only:

IAD comes and goes in waves for new hires it seems. Catch it at the right time you could be close to holding long call within 2-3 months of completing IOE, catch it at the wrong time you could be waiting 6 months to get up there. Seems like they are holding just under 70 active FOs.

FWIW: Almost no one believes the CRJ base is going to be around in 2015.

On another note, anyone heard anything more about possible LGA/MSP bases?

flyergurl 11-20-2013 03:14 PM

An ERJ guy was awarded IAD straight out of training in our 10/7 class.

dsmith3631 01-18-2014 06:35 AM

Update on IAD please?
 
Reviving this a bit, but want to know the breakdown now at IAD of ERJ and CRJ FOs. How many each a/c? How likely you think direct from NHT? Reserve length on both a/c at IAD? Just hired at interview and want to know my chances before they offer an aircraft class. Thanks.

Jaxs170 01-18-2014 07:04 AM

IAD tends to be very junior in the lower 1/3 of the CRJ list. I think we had something in the vicinity of 12 new hire F/Os bid out in the most recent bid, so they'll need that many plus a few more to backfill by May.

Did you mean KMHT? No direct service to IAD anymore, you'll either need to go to DCA and take the metro over (about $6) or two hop it. Logan would be a better option (usually no issues on JB, United can be a huge PITA) but I know parking is way more expensive.

If I were you, EWR ERJ would be my preference, maybe even CLE. Good luck!

MedicRyan 01-18-2014 04:46 PM

I am in IAD on the ERJ side. They are trickling in new hires here every month or so, but it will take some time to get a line. There are 34 lines for 61 FOs for Feb which puts the most junior lineholder as a 2011 hire. Its becoming more senior every month due to the commutability of the lines.

Squawk87 01-18-2014 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by MedicRyan (Post 1562138)
I am in IAD on the ERJ side. They are trickling in new hires here every month or so, but it will take some time to get a line. There are 34 lines for 61 FOs for Feb which puts the most junior lineholder as a 2011 hire. Its becoming more senior every month due to the commutability of the lines.

34 Hard line, I assume we are going to have about 10-15 additional relief lines in IAD.

FLY6584 02-03-2014 04:43 PM

How hard is it to get ATL?

BeechedJet 02-03-2014 05:32 PM

Last few classes the top 2-4 in seniority get ATL if desired. Everyone else expect IAD or DTW.

FLY6584 02-03-2014 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 1573597)
Last few classes the top 2-4 in seniority get ATL if desired. Everyone else expect IAD or DTW.

And I assume that's based on age? How will someone that's 30 years old rank amongst the other guys in the class?

Also how long of a wait until you can transfer to ATL? Is it possible to hold a Long Call Reserve out of IAD or DTW and not need a crashpad?

BeechedJet 02-04-2014 02:02 AM

Age yes and it'll be a while before you'll see long call reserve.

Captain Tony 02-04-2014 04:06 AM

Long call at this company is useless as a commuter, because they can convert you to short call 7 times a month. And by "can" I mean they will. Just because they can. You'll need a crashpad.

yimke 02-04-2014 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1573790)
Long call at this company is useless as a commuter, because they can convert you to short call 7 times a month. And by "can" I mean they will. Just because they can. You'll need a crashpad.

Yep. They need to change LCR to call last on list also. Who am I to say though? We can't have it all and I don't make 1.2 million a year.

ross9238 02-04-2014 09:24 AM

Not sure why these things cannot be addressed in a contract.

Vertisch 02-04-2014 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by yimke (Post 1573931)
Yep. They need to change LCR to call last on list also. Who am I to say though? We can't have it all and I don't make 1.2 million a year.

By definition LCR is called first. Why would you call a guy that has to have the most lead time last?

Speedbird2263 02-04-2014 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1573790)
Long call at this company is useless as a commuter, because they can convert you to short call 7 times a month. And by "can" I mean they will. Just because they can. You'll need a crashpad.

I got lucky last month and held the last LCR line for ATL CR7 and it was the most amazing bump in QOL I've had since I've been here(2yrs). I'm a commuter and everyday I didn't get used I enjoyed being at home with my family(15 days off). I was apprehensive about being converted to SCR from the various war stories I had heard but it only happened once. I checked the reserve coverage and it did seem that it was a 'just because' and further exacerbated by the fact they didn't call me, oh well. I didn't need a crashpad and got a hotel for only one night to be in position for a early start the next day. This month though QOL went far left to 4am SCR :( .Ahh the good things in life.

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