Question for Expressjet (ASA) guys/ gals
 

In Fayetteville (North Carolina) there was a Delta colors 200 at the gate for about 4 days. They said it was broke hard. Eventually they towed it across the airport and its been sitting there at an open ramp for about 4-5 months now with no activity.

Anyone have any idea what's up it? Are they seriously getting to the point that its cheaper to abandon 200's rather than fixing them?

Yea probably,


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Yep. Probably just leave that one there and swap in a retired United 200 in its place.

Another question. Frequently I'll see someone's ExpressJet wings on the hotel shuttle or wherever. Naturally the "Who do you fly for?" question gets brought up, and after telling them my company, I'll say "You're with ExpressJet?" Almost without fail, they correct me and say ASA. Is there still such a void between the two labor groups? It seems like an American pilot saying he's really a TWA pilot.

But then, I don't really know the history.

For all intents and purposes, ASA and ExpressJet are still two different airlines sharing an op cert and headquarters. AA/TWA or US/America West comparisons don't really work for this situation. Perhaps the stark difference in company cultures is the reason for the differentiation however.

The pilot groups aren't joined together except by name.

You still see airways guys calling themselves east/west.

You still hear DAL guys reference if they were NWA or not.

UAL and CAL differentiate themselves as well saying which side they came from.

TWA guys just pretty much all got furloughed...a lot are back on property, just after 12 years is all!


I would say it could be a pride thing, where you came from, your roots, something like that.

Ever talk to a legal immigrant that is now a US citizen, he/she will still tell you which country they came from.

In the end it's probably to give history, and a pride thing if they are proud of their background and/or don't want to be associated with originally being from the other side. But, each individual is different.

If they were to answer you with, "yeah I'm with ExpressJet", how would you know if they were originally ASA?

On the other hand, I recently asked a guy if he was with ASA and he said "no, the stepchild side of the company." I thought it was pretty funny.

Usually, at least for me, I say CRJ or ASA side only to answer the next question before they ask. "Which side?" Is always a follow up question otherwise.

I really do enjoy answering the whole "ORD, IAH, EWR base?" question with ATL and then it turning into a 10 second awkward OHHHHH thing. Saying ASA is just the easiest way of ending/continuing a conversation in the hotel shuttle. I don't... know why this is a big deal? The two sides are together only via the name but everything else for the most part is still separate.