FedEx Jumpseat Staging vs Business Rules
#22
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If you are saying that you can only book a jumpseat based on the provisions stated in 26.J.2, then you can't jumpseat in for training or jumpseat home either. Those aren't mentioned so they must be banned.
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Here is what I don’t understand about this statement of not suggesting it while on probation: if a new hire doesn’t live in base and is on reserve, how would he ever get to base before his availability period if not by commuting/jumpseating?
#26
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While the company seems to be run by lawyers, if you operate on the edge all the time, mistakes will happen, but life goes on. I agree probationary pilots should always be more careful, but you don’t have to go to extremes.
I would venture to say most people on reserve Jumpseat in. If something crops up, call CRS. If you get a letter, it’s advisory, and THEN be more cautious over the next year. This job is much easier than this thread is making it out to be.
And regardless of what some may say about prohibitions jumpseating in, there are NONE in the CBA. The CBA language simply refers to protections if you follow certain rules. Without meeting the “protection” timings doesn’t mean you can’t or shouldn’t do it. Just be honest and early with your phone call to CRS, then perhaps the DO if needed. Once you get a letter for the inevitable problem that will crop up in a career, deal with it then. Many people at the 15 plus year point have received a letter or two in their careers. They go away at a year and it takes more than one to even pop onto the discipline radar.
I would venture to say most people on reserve Jumpseat in. If something crops up, call CRS. If you get a letter, it’s advisory, and THEN be more cautious over the next year. This job is much easier than this thread is making it out to be.
And regardless of what some may say about prohibitions jumpseating in, there are NONE in the CBA. The CBA language simply refers to protections if you follow certain rules. Without meeting the “protection” timings doesn’t mean you can’t or shouldn’t do it. Just be honest and early with your phone call to CRS, then perhaps the DO if needed. Once you get a letter for the inevitable problem that will crop up in a career, deal with it then. Many people at the 15 plus year point have received a letter or two in their careers. They go away at a year and it takes more than one to even pop onto the discipline radar.
#27
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Yes, talking about jumping in on the p.m. inbound for MEM starting A reserve callout at midnight. Though it is perfectly legal and not a violation of the contract, I just wouldn't encourage a pilot on probation to do it. I also wouldn't tell them not to if that's what they chose to do.
#28
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Dont sweat the letters
I retired at 22 years and had 6 letters or IR or what ever they called them in my jacket and 4 Bravo Zulu's. The BZ were before the turn of the century i don't even know if they do them any more.
Probation guys be careful, once you've been here a year only then can you walk up to the edge.
Sparky
Probation guys be careful, once you've been here a year only then can you walk up to the edge.
Sparky
#29
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#30
The contract doesn't ban jumpseating in while on reserve, you just aren't protected. I agree that I wouldn't suggest it while on probation, but it certainly isn't banned.
If you are saying that you can only book a jumpseat based on the provisions stated in 26.J.2, then you can't jumpseat in for training or jumpseat home either. Those aren't mentioned so they must be banned.
If you are saying that you can only book a jumpseat based on the provisions stated in 26.J.2, then you can't jumpseat in for training or jumpseat home either. Those aren't mentioned so they must be banned.
Curious, why do you suppose the PBB which defines Staging as "a pilot who is commuting by air from their primary residence to their base" also requires your primary residence to be within 100 nautical miles of the FedEx ramp?
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