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Old 05-10-2018, 10:00 PM
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No one has to live in base but except for R24 during your r days you have to be available by phone and if given latecall be able to be at mem ops in 1hr.

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And there isn't anything in the contract that bans jumpseating into reserve, is there?
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26.J.2.a.

However some on here disagree with me.

I personally wouldn't do it. Nor would I advise a new hire to do it.
The contract doesn't ban jumpseating in while on reserve, you just aren't protected. I agree that I wouldn't suggest it while on probation, but it certainly isn't banned.

If you are saying that you can only book a jumpseat based on the provisions stated in 26.J.2, then you can't jumpseat in for training or jumpseat home either. Those aren't mentioned so they must be banned.
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Originally Posted by FXLAX View Post
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It would have been better written as follows:

No one has to live in base. However, when on reserve you have to be in domicile for a possible 1 hour late call out, the exception being R24
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Originally Posted by pinseeker View Post
The contract doesn't ban jumpseating in while on reserve, you just aren't protected. I agree that I wouldn't suggest it while on probation, but it certainly isn't banned.

Here is what I don’t understand about this statement of not suggesting it while on probation: if a new hire doesn’t live in base and is on reserve, how would he ever get to base before his availability period if not by commuting/jumpseating?
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I think they mean for instance, if you start a rsv tonight at 12am, then js into mem during the day sort or on a commercial js during the day instead of waiting to arrive at 2355L.
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While the company seems to be run by lawyers, if you operate on the edge all the time, mistakes will happen, but life goes on. I agree probationary pilots should always be more careful, but you don’t have to go to extremes.

I would venture to say most people on reserve Jumpseat in. If something crops up, call CRS. If you get a letter, it’s advisory, and THEN be more cautious over the next year. This job is much easier than this thread is making it out to be.

And regardless of what some may say about prohibitions jumpseating in, there are NONE in the CBA. The CBA language simply refers to protections if you follow certain rules. Without meeting the “protection” timings doesn’t mean you can’t or shouldn’t do it. Just be honest and early with your phone call to CRS, then perhaps the DO if needed. Once you get a letter for the inevitable problem that will crop up in a career, deal with it then. Many people at the 15 plus year point have received a letter or two in their careers. They go away at a year and it takes more than one to even pop onto the discipline radar.
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Here is what I don’t understand about this statement of not suggesting it while on probation: if a new hire doesn’t live in base and is on reserve, how would he ever get to base before his availability period if not by commuting/jumpseating?
Yes, talking about jumping in on the p.m. inbound for MEM starting A reserve callout at midnight. Though it is perfectly legal and not a violation of the contract, I just wouldn't encourage a pilot on probation to do it. I also wouldn't tell them not to if that's what they chose to do.
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Old 05-11-2018, 06:44 PM
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I retired at 22 years and had 6 letters or IR or what ever they called them in my jacket and 4 Bravo Zulu's. The BZ were before the turn of the century i don't even know if they do them any more.
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8 View Post
It would have been better written as follows:

No one has to live in base. However, when on reserve you have to be in domicile for a possible 1 hour late call out, the exception being R24
Only those on RA may be reduced to 1hr callout, per 25.M.3.a.i
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Originally Posted by pinseeker View Post
The contract doesn't ban jumpseating in while on reserve, you just aren't protected. I agree that I wouldn't suggest it while on probation, but it certainly isn't banned.

If you are saying that you can only book a jumpseat based on the provisions stated in 26.J.2, then you can't jumpseat in for training or jumpseat home either. Those aren't mentioned so they must be banned.
Paragraph 1 states that we can use the jumpseat in accordance with the Pilot Benefit Book. The PBB further defines that a pilot can use a STAGING jumpseat to position himself to base for the start of his SCHEDULED TRIP (No harm, no foul) provided he meets the requirements of that section of the jumpseat policy.

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WAnd regardless of what some may say about prohibitions jumpseating in, there are NONE in the CBA. The CBA language simply refers to protections if you follow certain rules. Without meeting the “protection” timings doesn’t mean you can’t or shouldn’t do it.
What is the difference of banning something or being disciplined when not following the provisions of the CBA thus not protected?

Curious, why do you suppose the PBB which defines Staging as "a pilot who is commuting by air from their primary residence to their base" also requires your primary residence to be within 100 nautical miles of the FedEx ramp?
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