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pinseeker 09-05-2018 07:18 AM

Latest Union Settlement
 
Everyone needs to read the latest settlement regarding retirement and vacation payout. While the settlement fixed the problem for those who retired in 2016 and 2017 and those who will retire in 2018, it left the rest of us hanging.

This really builds my confidence that the MEC will get a new retirement agreement that doesn't leave anyone behind.:rolleyes:

TonyC 09-05-2018 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 2668650)

Everyone needs to read the latest settlement regarding retirement and vacation payout. While the settlement fixed the problem for those who retired in 2016 and 2017 and those who will retire in 2018, it left the rest of us hanging.

This really builds my confidence that the MEC will get a new retirement agreement that doesn't leave anyone behind.:rolleyes:


It also tells us volumes about the character of our employer and how they'll screw us without blinking. 46 years of precedent (paying vacation, etc., on January 1st and giving the pilot tax advantages) means nothing to The Company when they find a way to save money on our backs.

But let's be friends. :rolleyes:


I'm ready to do whatever it takes to restore our A Plan to what we, that is The Company and The Association, agreed to 20 years ago. FIFTY percent income replacement ratio is what it constituted then, and that's what it should be now, and that's what it should be in the future.

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that The Company is not an honest broker in this relationship, and it's high time OUR representative in the relationship, the entity to which we pay dues and to which we elect Block Reps, The Association acting as our Collective Bargaining Agent, stopped trying to exchange kisses with The Company and started acting like a Union. Stop wasting money on inventing a faux-retirement plan, a defined contribution plan dressed up to look like and replace a defined benefit plan, and START BUILDING A WAR CHEST.

WHATEVER IT TAKES

Print the bag tags and lanyards, and pull the permits for informational pickets. Schedule the Sunday afternoon rallies. When we try to play nice, we get played the fool, and I'm sick and tired of being played the fool.





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kc10/c130 09-05-2018 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2668718)
It also tells us volumes about the character of our employer and how they'll screw us without blinking. 46 years of precedent (paying vacation, etc., on January 1st and giving the pilot tax advantages) means nothing to The Company when they find a way to save money on our backs.

But let's be friends. :rolleyes:


I'm ready to do whatever it takes to restore our A Plan to what we, that is The Company and The Association, agreed to 20 years ago. FIFTY percent income replacement ratio is what it constituted then, and that's what it should be now, and that's what it should be in the future.

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that The Company is not an honest broker in this relationship, and it's high time OUR representative in the relationship, the entity to which we pay dues and to which we elect Block Reps, The Association acting as our Collective Bargaining Agent, stopped trying to exchange kisses with The Company and started acting like a Union. Stop wasting money on inventing a faux-retirement plan, a defined contribution plan dressed up to look like and replace a defined benefit plan, and START BUILDING A WAR CHEST.

WHATEVER IT TAKES

Print the bag tags and lanyards, and pull the permits for informational pickets. Schedule the Sunday afternoon rallies. When we try to play nice, we get played the fool, and I'm sick and tired of being played the fool.
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What he said...

StarClipper 09-05-2018 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2668718)
It also tells us volumes about the character of our employer and how they'll screw us without blinking. 46 years of precedent (paying vacation, etc., on January 1st and giving the pilot tax advantages) means nothing to The Company when they find a way to save money on our backs.

But let's be friends. :rolleyes:


I'm ready to do whatever it takes to restore our A Plan to what we, that is The Company and The Association, agreed to 20 years ago. FIFTY percent income replacement ratio is what it constituted then, and that's what it should be now, and that's what it should be in the future.

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that The Company is not an honest broker in this relationship, and it's high time OUR representative in the relationship, the entity to which we pay dues and to which we elect Block Reps, The Association acting as our Collective Bargaining Agent, stopped trying to exchange kisses with The Company and started acting like a Union. Stop wasting money on inventing a faux-retirement plan, a defined contribution plan dressed up to look like and replace a defined benefit plan, and START BUILDING A WAR CHEST.

WHATEVER IT TAKES

Print the bag tags and lanyards, and pull the permits for informational pickets. Schedule the Sunday afternoon rallies. When we try to play nice, we get played the fool, and I'm sick and tired of being played the fool.





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Mark in present

FedupFlex 09-05-2018 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2668718)
It also tells us volumes about the character of our employer and how they'll screw us without blinking. 46 years of precedent (paying vacation, etc., on January 1st and giving the pilot tax advantages) means nothing to The Company when they find a way to save money on our backs.

But let's be friends. :rolleyes:


I'm ready to do whatever it takes to restore our A Plan to what we, that is The Company and The Association, agreed to 20 years ago. FIFTY percent income replacement ratio is what it constituted then, and that's what it should be now, and that's what it should be in the future.

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that The Company is not an honest broker in this relationship, and it's high time OUR representative in the relationship, the entity to which we pay dues and to which we elect Block Reps, The Association acting as our Collective Bargaining Agent, stopped trying to exchange kisses with The Company and started acting like a Union. Stop wasting money on inventing a faux-retirement plan, a defined contribution plan dressed up to look like and replace a defined benefit plan, and START BUILDING A WAR CHEST.

WHATEVER IT TAKES

Print the bag tags and lanyards, and pull the permits for informational pickets. Schedule the Sunday afternoon rallies. When we try to play nice, we get played the fool, and I'm sick and tired of being played the fool.





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The Company has never liked us, and by us voting in the turd 2015 CBA, we told them it”s OK to not respect us. Now with the MEC caving in, they are laughing at us. After 28 years of carrying the union/ALPA/FPA/ALPA banner, I feel like I am on my own. Maybe if I see some true union building by whomever, I’ll change my mind.

So, FYIGM!

USMCFDX 09-05-2018 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by FedupFlex (Post 2668964)
The Company has never liked us, and by us voting in the turd 2015 CBA, we told them it”s OK to not respect us. Now with the MEC caving in, they are laughing at us. After 28 years of carrying the union/ALPA/FPA/ALPA banner, I feel like I am on my own. Maybe if I see some true union building by whomever, I’ll change my mind.

So, FYIGM!

Get your high 5 now so you can max your benefit because the union is about to get your A plan frozen. The company must be salivating and the bottles of champagne have already been purchased.

kronan 09-05-2018 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 2668969)
Get your high 5 now so you can max your benefit because the union is about to get your A plan frozen. The company must be salivating and the bottles of champagne have already been purchased.

PMs proposal is a soft freeze. If you can achieve a high 5 in your FedEx career now, then you can achieve it under the VB.

IMO-transition to VB plan is 15 months away at the earliest. Significant changes don’t tend to be implemented mid-stream.
For example, our B plan ramped up 1 January 2016 instead of immediately after CBA 2015 was implemented.

And, just my opinion, company sure doesn’t seem to be moving quickly on the VB front for a group of managers drooling and waiting to pop the champagne.

USMCFDX 09-05-2018 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by kronan (Post 2668990)
PMs proposal is a soft freeze. If you can achieve a high 5 in your FedEx career now, then you can achieve it under the VB.

IMO-transition to VB plan is 15 months away at the earliest. Significant changes don’t tend to be implemented mid-stream.
For example, our B plan ramped up 1 January 2016 instead of immediately after CBA 2015 was implemented.

And, just my opinion, company sure doesn’t seem to be moving quickly on the VB front for a group of managers drooling and waiting to pop the champagne.

"Proposal" and just because the company has not come out and said anything does not mean they are not giddy with excitement. They are letting ALPA sell this turd.

Sure it might be 15 months away, that is why I suggest you make as much as you can so you are as close as you can get to having a high five.

Thank you for pointing out another failure in the last contract. Delay of both B fund bumps. Should have been 9% at date of signing.

Shaman 09-05-2018 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2668718)
It also tells us volumes about the character of our employer and how they'll screw us without blinking. 46 years of precedent (paying vacation, etc., on January 1st and giving the pilot tax advantages) means nothing to The Company when they find a way to save money on our backs.

But let's be friends. :rolleyes:


I'm ready to do whatever it takes to restore our A Plan to what we, that is The Company and The Association, agreed to 20 years ago. FIFTY percent income replacement ratio is what it constituted then, and that's what it should be now, and that's what it should be in the future.

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that The Company is not an honest broker in this relationship, and it's high time OUR representative in the relationship, the entity to which we pay dues and to which we elect Block Reps, The Association acting as our Collective Bargaining Agent, stopped trying to exchange kisses with The Company and started acting like a Union. Stop wasting money on inventing a faux-retirement plan, a defined contribution plan dressed up to look like and replace a defined benefit plan, and START BUILDING A WAR CHEST.

WHATEVER IT TAKES

Print the bag tags and lanyards, and pull the permits for informational pickets. Schedule the Sunday afternoon rallies. When we try to play nice, we get played the fool, and I'm sick and tired of being played the fool.





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Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.

Frederick Douglass

msduckslyr 09-06-2018 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2668718)
It also tells us volumes about the character of our employer and how they'll screw us without blinking. 46 years of precedent (paying vacation, etc., on January 1st and giving the pilot tax advantages) means nothing to The Company when they find a way to save money on our backs.

But let's be friends. :rolleyes:


I'm ready to do whatever it takes to restore our A Plan to what we, that is The Company and The Association, agreed to 20 years ago. FIFTY percent income replacement ratio is what it constituted then, and that's what it should be now, and that's what it should be in the future.

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that The Company is not an honest broker in this relationship, and it's high time OUR representative in the relationship, the entity to which we pay dues and to which we elect Block Reps, The Association acting as our Collective Bargaining Agent, stopped trying to exchange kisses with The Company and started acting like a Union. Stop wasting money on inventing a faux-retirement plan, a defined contribution plan dressed up to look like and replace a defined benefit plan, and START BUILDING A WAR CHEST.

WHATEVER IT TAKES

Print the bag tags and lanyards, and pull the permits for informational pickets. Schedule the Sunday afternoon rallies. When we try to play nice, we get played the fool, and I'm sick and tired of being played the fool.





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Spot on Tony!


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