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Old 10-24-2018 | 12:16 PM
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Reading the CBA’s Use of Sick leave (14.B.2.) and just want to see if I am missing something.


Pilot A was awarded a secondary line with trips in week 1 and week 2 and reserve in week 3.

Pilot B was awarded a reserve line with a block of reserve in week 1, week 2, and week 3.

Pilot C has one long block of reserve.


Pilots A & B get sick in week 3. Pilot C was sick an equal number of days in their string of days.

None were ever needed to fly while sick (e.g., way down on the leveling list).


Pilot A has his/her sick leave deducted the value of that week’s reserve block.

Pilots B & C keeps their sick leave as they were not sick for all R-days.


Am I reading that right?

If so, does that make sense for the secondary line holder?
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Old 10-24-2018 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by StillFlying
Reading the CBA’s Use of Sick leave (14.B.2.) and just want to see if I am missing something.


Pilot A was awarded a secondary line with trips in week 1 and week 2 and reserve in week 3.

Pilot B was awarded a reserve line with a block of reserve in week 1, week 2, and week 3.

Pilot C has one long block of reserve.


Pilots A & B get sick in week 3. Pilot C was sick an equal number of days in their string of days.

None were ever needed to fly while sick (e.g., way down on the leveling list).


Pilot A has his/her sick leave deducted the value of that week’s reserve block.

Pilots B & C keeps their sick leave as they were not sick for all R-days.


Am I reading that right?

If so, does that make sense for the secondary line holder?
Secondary line holder does get screwed. He also gets no leveling for vacation hours.
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Old 10-24-2018 | 01:36 PM
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That’s what our union sold to us and 57% bought it.🤷🏼

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Old 10-24-2018 | 01:37 PM
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If any of the three were sick for all R days in their month, no matter how many there are, and doesn't pull even one, their sick bank is charged the full amount.Whether they would have been used or not. You need to stand at least one day, if possible, or you're screwed.
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Old 10-24-2018 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BLOB
Secondary line holder does get screwed. He also gets no leveling for vacation hours.
I am not sure the exact fix, but this seems like something to be fixed in the next contract. Maybe just removing the mini-RLG folks from that sick leave paragraph.
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Old 10-24-2018 | 02:29 PM
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Got this a while ago and couldn't find it until recently. I think this is still being used:
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Old 10-24-2018 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Got this a while ago and couldn't find it until recently. I think this is still being used:
So we are being penalized for being sick and the punishment is even more severe if you’re sick on a holiday or during training. SMFH and our union signed of on it and 57% voted for it.
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Old 10-24-2018 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
So we are being penalized for being sick and the punishment is even more severe if you’re sick on a holiday or during training. SMFH and our union signed of on it and 57% voted for it.
I got the impression that the union was aware, possibly agreed to it. I don't think it was supposed to be for public consumption, but these things tend to come out one way or another.

It looks to me that the "punishment" is the same, regardless of how you arrive at the requisite number of points. Being sick over a holiday or for training just gets you there quicker.
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Old 10-24-2018 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
That’s what our union sold to us and 57% bought it.🤷🏼
Damn you whine a lot. Looking forward to the awesome contract and retirement you will negotiate for us in 2021.
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Old 10-25-2018 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MEMFO4Ever
Damn you whine a lot. Looking forward to the awesome contract and retirement you will negotiate for us in 2021.
No whining here, just pointing out the all the crap in this contract the union hide during their sales job.
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