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04-03-2019, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthrax
accused of wrong-doung. no surprise.
So much for transparency...
04-03-2019, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
Well I got that much from the documents I read, but no one is telling what they supposedly did.
So much for transparency...
So much for transparency...
There's a detailed process to this. Once it's resolved, I'm not sure what the requirements are for revealing details to the rank and file. If it's allowed, I'm sure your LEC can provide you with information. But, that may need to wait until the hearing and any appeals are final.
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04-03-2019, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I don't see anything in the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws requiring dissemination of the details of an on going Article VIII action to the membership. It's pretty clear from the MEC chairmans's letter that it's not appropriate to provide specifics now. I'm know APC isn't the place to seek or post information about this issue.
There's a detailed process to this. Once it's resolved, I'm not sure what the requirements are for revealing details to the rank and file. If it's allowed, I'm sure your LEC can provide you with information. But, that may need to wait until the hearing and any appeals are final.
There's a detailed process to this. Once it's resolved, I'm not sure what the requirements are for revealing details to the rank and file. If it's allowed, I'm sure your LEC can provide you with information. But, that may need to wait until the hearing and any appeals are final.
I pay my dues. I, and everyone else, should have a right to know what is going on.
I smell another cover up.
Stuff like this is why the union is divided and has so little support.
This and the plan to steal my hard earned retirement so the high 5 and 25 guys can take a little more out of my pocket. Wasn't age 65 enough? How much more do they want? The answer is, I am afraid, as much as they can take and get away with.
04-03-2019, 06:54 PM
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Valid points on the retirement debacle, age 65 and I'll even throw in a general spear toward CBA 2015.
I just don't consider this other thing in the same ballpark. It's been publicly acknowledged by the MEC in a couple of letters. They seem to want it to stop based on what they've seen and the potential fallout, but respect the rules and the process enough to let it play out, if necessary.
If the hearing runs its course, the charges are found to have merit and you still can't get answers - then it's time to cry foul. Until then, I think it's reasonable to expect it to be resolved appropriately.
I just don't consider this other thing in the same ballpark. It's been publicly acknowledged by the MEC in a couple of letters. They seem to want it to stop based on what they've seen and the potential fallout, but respect the rules and the process enough to let it play out, if necessary.
If the hearing runs its course, the charges are found to have merit and you still can't get answers - then it's time to cry foul. Until then, I think it's reasonable to expect it to be resolved appropriately.
04-04-2019, 10:54 AM
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I reject the notion that these guys are that important to the SIG so as to let this pass without the MEC firing them. Wrongdoing was found, as stated in the letters, and they work at the discretion of the MEC chair. Ready, aim, you’re fired. Most line pilots save for the regional pukes could learn this stuff in a month. But what we have at the SIG, in my opinion, is a network where guys overstate their importance so as to maintain the luxuries these jobs afford.
I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.
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