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pinseeker 08-26-2019 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by StarClipper (Post 2876642)
Read my post carefully, I said if the company doesn’t want us to fly on the side which should be our choice, then they should allow it. And yes one should be allowed to pickup up as much OT as they want. I have hundreds of hours of MU and I don’t use it. I enjoy QOL

First, you didn't say anything of the sort in the post I quoted. Here is that post, bad english included:


Originally Posted by StarClipper (Post 2876495)
SMFH, I’m very much familiar with our contract as it pertains to picking up OT. MU is completely different than picking up OT. As of right now we can pick up no more that 6hrs of OT per month except if you have MU time.
My point is one should be allowed to fly to FAR limits if one chooses to do so.


And, you can increase your schedule by 18 hours without any MU.

Second, so someone should be able to pick up as much open time as they want, but shouldn't be allowed to fly to 65.

Out West 08-26-2019 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2876349)
Yeah, it's a "thing".
30 hours in 7 consecutive days (domestic)
32 in 7 (international)
Probably the two most likely limits encountered by FedEx guys. I blocked out 17 minutes late and flew an extra 20 minutes on the first leg to NRT on a 12-day trip which was all it took to throw my optimized trip out of 32 in 7 limits requiring a major revision (and that was without any outside commercial flying).
Among others, there's also:
100 hours in a calendar month
1000 in 12 calendar months

Makes sense in some cases, I guess I just don’t understand the blanket policy. I’m not sure I’ve ever hit half of any of those marks - but as is often mentioned, it can be like being at a completely different airline here, depending on equipment.

I could see the 32 in 7 for some of the 777 trips for sure. Fair enough.

Out West 08-26-2019 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 2876352)
So what kind of extra commercial flying job do these guys at United have that doesn't pay anything? If your not getting paid, are you really employed?

Draken.

Never said they didn’t get paid, I said they weren’t doing it for the money. It doesn’t pay *that* well.

StarClipper 08-26-2019 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 2876652)
First, you didn't say anything of the sort in the post I quoted. Here is that post, bad english included:




And, you can increase your schedule by 18 hours without any MU.

Second, so someone should be able to pick up as much open time as they want, but shouldn't be allowed to fly to 65.

I know you can drop a trip and pickup one that’s worth 12hrs more. But my point still stand that the company shouldn’t restrict your flying on your days off.

Fdxlag2 08-26-2019 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 2876652)
First, you didn't say anything of the sort in the post I quoted. Here is that post, bad english included:




And, you can increase your schedule by 18 hours without any MU.

Second, so someone should be able to pick up as much open time as they want, but shouldn't be allowed to fly to 65.

It is the pilots that want the cap not the company. Junior pilots or wannabes should understand why.

hoya saxa 08-26-2019 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by StarClipper (Post 2876588)
Go right ahead and PM me yours.



Done. I’ll be looking forward to your text. BTW, I expect you’ll be identifying yourself when you do so and not getting the number from someone who actually works at FDX right? Ya, thought so.


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pinseeker 08-26-2019 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Out West (Post 2876659)
Draken.

Never said they didn’t get paid, I said they weren’t doing it for the money. It doesn’t pay *that* well.

Actually, you did say that they didn't get paid. Notice the quote in bold below which states "To be fair, none of them are flying 121 or charter, and none are doing it for money." Not doing it for money and not doing it for the money are two different things. You said "none are doing it for money."


Originally Posted by Out West (Post 2876311)
United for certain, currently. American and Delta did, but I don’t know as of today what the policy is. I could ask a handful of folks from the latter if they’re still at Draken, but I’m too lazy.

To be fair, none of them are flying 121 or charter, and none are doing it for money. May be a different discussion.


pinseeker 08-26-2019 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by StarClipper (Post 2876690)
I know you can drop a trip and pickup one that’s worth 12hrs more. But my point still stand that the company shouldn’t restrict your flying on your days off.

They don't restrict your flying on your days off. You can fly as much as you want on your days off. You just can't have another job that has hours that count against FAR limits without getting their permission first. It's kind of like Apple saying that their employees can't do contract work for Google because it may harm Apple. As Adler pointed out, another commercial flying job could have a negative impact on FedEx. It's part of the terms of employment.


By the way, nice job avoiding an answer on your conflicting positions that a pilot should be able to fly as much as they want and shouldn't be able to fly until age 65.

golfandfly 08-26-2019 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 2876740)
They don't restrict your flying on your days off. You can fly as much as you want on your days off. You just can't have another job that has hours that count against FAR limits without getting their permission first. It's kind of like Apple saying that their employees can't do contract work for Google because it may harm Apple. As Adler pointed out, another commercial flying job could have a negative impact on FedEx. It's part of the terms of employment.


By the way, nice job avoiding an answer on your conflicting positions that a pilot should be able to fly as much as they want and shouldn't be able to fly until age 65.

You simply have to ask why outside commercial flying would be good for the company. I can’t think of any way it helps Fedex, but could possibly hinder their operations.

HvypurplePylot 08-26-2019 08:32 AM

At least this is worthy of a discussion unlike homeslice probie *****ing about beards on JF wishing he was back at Cathay. Wtf do they find these people.


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