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StarClipper 10-15-2019 02:16 PM

From The Grievance Committee
 
So if I read this right, the Company elected to exercise their option to withdraw from the Hotel Standby settlement that both sides have benefitted from over the last two peak periods.
Wasn’t that a grievance we won? So what opinions are on the table for the union now?File another grievance? This don’t make any sense to me. Look like the company will do as they please. These grievances are a waste of time if after a settlement the company does the same thing that led to the grievance.

HvypurplePylot 10-15-2019 02:26 PM

This was announced months ago. Must have missed it in your email.

StarClipper 10-15-2019 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot (Post 2905734)
This was announced months ago. Must have missed it in your email.

It’s in the positive rate the union sent out today. Guess I overlooked it in the first email.

Riverside 10-15-2019 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by StarClipper (Post 2905752)
It’s in the positive rate the union sent out today. Guess I overlooked it in the first email.

Hey you figured it out. Congrats.

PurpleToolBox 10-15-2019 06:34 PM

Unfortunately the agreement allowed any party to withdrawal with notice and the company did just that. Old news. But report to the Union if you see Airport Standbys flooding the schedule and preventing you from dropping trips or changing your schedule.

Tuck 10-15-2019 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by StarClipper (Post 2905724)
So if I read this right, the Company elected to exercise their option to withdraw from the Hotel Standby settlement that both sides have benefitted from over the last two peak periods.
Wasn’t that a grievance we won? So what opinions are on the table for the union now?File another grievance? This don’t make any sense to me. Look like the company will do as they please. These grievances are a waste of time if after a settlement the company does the same thing that led to the grievance.

Spoken like a guy who has limited understanding of RLA and airline issues but damn...acts like he knows it all. I get it - you're a commuter guy from Frontier and gosh darn it, that makes you super smart.

Either side could withdraw after 2 years - Company elected to back in February because of the perceived abuses of AVA. Guys dropping trips and then picking up friend's trip at AVA since reserve forecast is not an issue. Not an issue the settlement was meant to solve. But hey it happened, and now they've withdrawn. Maybe it'll be worse for them if they don't have sufficient reserves to cover everything...or maybe it wont.

You do understand that minor grievances are filed under the RLA and a settlement is typically better than going all the way to an arbitrator right? This was maybe the best settlement for the pilot's I've seen in 15 years - except for the ones that were obvious wins (75/76 passover for example).

So stop you complaining, read a bit more on the law governing the industry you work in and try and do something helpful.

kronan 10-16-2019 07:01 AM

2 day HSBY's, which have a disproportionate impact on Reserve Availability.
Not the increased ASBYs which will arrive in December.

It was the 2 day HSBY's which Mgt wasn't filling that resulted in the settlement agreement, not the ASBYs which Mgt typically assigns. (And why not, HSBYs add per diem and Hotel expenses whereas ASBYs don't)

StarClipper 10-16-2019 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 2905996)
Spoken like a guy who has limited understanding of RLA and airline issues but damn...acts like he knows it all. I get it - you're a commuter guy from Frontier and gosh darn it, that makes you super smart.

Either side could withdraw after 2 years - Company elected to back in February because of the perceived abuses of AVA. Guys dropping trips and then picking up friend's trip at AVA since reserve forecast is not an issue. Not an issue the settlement was meant to solve. But hey it happened, and now they've withdrawn. Maybe it'll be worse for them if they don't have sufficient reserves to cover everything...or maybe it wont.

You do understand that minor grievances are filed under the RLA and a settlement is typically better than going all the way to an arbitrator right? This was maybe the best settlement for the pilot's I've seen in 15 years - except for the ones that were obvious wins (75/76 passover for example).

So stop you complaining, read a bit more on the law governing the industry you work in and try and do something helpful.

If you notice, I ask a series of questions before all else. So stop being so defensive like I said something to offend you? And your arrogance continues to show by trying to belittle commuter and frontier guys. Like I’ve said I’ve been here long enough whether you like it or not.

pinseeker 10-16-2019 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by StarClipper (Post 2906265)
If you notice, I ask a series of questions before all else. So stop being so defensive like I said something to offend you? And your arrogance continues to show by trying to belittle commuter and frontier guys. Like I’ve said I’ve been here long enough whether you like it or not.

You also said in 2015 that you were rejected by FedEx and hoped to get another shot in the regional forum. You also said in 2016 that you offline jumseat on FedEx.

So, which of your statements are false, those in the past, or your current statements.

Dakota 10-16-2019 05:24 PM

$$$$$????
 

Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 2905780)
Hey you figured it out. Congrats.

So what exactly are we paying big $$$ for each month?


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