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PeterGriffin 11-17-2020 07:38 AM

Out and back lot
 
Apparently it’s turned back into the Memphis locals lot?

Noworkallplay 11-17-2020 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by PeterGriffin (Post 3159931)
Apparently it’s turned back into the Memphis locals lot?

Having a lot of Memphis plates would make sense since most people who bid O&B"s are locals. I actually see an unlikely amount of none TN or MS plates. This tells me the abusers may be commuters. As a commuter I will get those pesky 2 day trips sometimes and use the 48 hour lot. The car cover and flat tires just gives it away haha.

BluePAX 11-17-2020 07:55 AM

Instead of hating on the few folks who abuse the lot, maybe we should turn our attention to the company that is not providing adequate parking space? Just a thought.

Thrust Hold 11-17-2020 11:30 AM

I'm still a big fan of placing a cone on the hood for each week of occupancy. Call it a dunce cap if you will.

PeterGriffin 11-17-2020 02:36 PM

Bottom line, if you’re not on an out and back or an airport standby, don’t park there.

PurpleToolBox 11-17-2020 04:40 PM

It’s the 48-hour lot, not the out and back lot. Or the 777 Captain’s lot.

WearyEyed 11-17-2020 09:06 PM

It’s past time for a parking garage with a covered walkway to AOC that could allow
2 or 3 times the current parking capacity...

Temocil27 11-18-2020 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by PeterGriffin (Post 3160075)
Bottom line, if you’re not on an out and back or an airport standby, don’t park there.

it’s called the 48-hour lot now. You can park there for up to 48 hours.

HoursHore 11-18-2020 04:21 AM

It’s is a 48 hour lot now, and our numbers have exceeded our allotted parking for years now. Esp. During peak with multiple airport standbys and extra pairings dragging more guys in. The lot next to it seems half full at most, time to move the fence and add a second level.

kronan 11-18-2020 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3160117)
It’s the 48-hour lot, not the out and back lot. Or the 777 Captain’s lot.

As PTB wrote, it's no longer and O&B lot. But a short time lot.

And one that's still frequently abused by various locals.

The cone cars\trucks can be hilarious to a very infrequent user of the lot.

MEMA300 11-18-2020 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by WearyEyed (Post 3160200)
It’s past time for a parking garage with a covered walkway to AOC that could allow
2 or 3 times the current parking capacity...

not gonna happen. AOC is in works to move west across airways.

BlueAvi8tor 11-18-2020 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 3160260)
not gonna happen. AOC is in works to move west across airways.

What you talk bout Willis?

HIREME 11-18-2020 05:42 AM

We should have a badge scan that can keep a record of parking time. We could also just have a receipt printed with an expiration time. Go over for a legit reason? Submit an Insite.

Certainly, we have grown by several hundred pilots and not added spaces. This has to be addressed at some point

WearyEyed 11-18-2020 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by BlueAvi8tor (Post 3160261)
What you talk bout Willis?

That’s a new rumor that I haven’t heard before. I won’t dispute it because our ramp has limited gate space as it is and if you look to the future then gate space and sort facility will be the priority between Tchulahoma, Airways, Democrat, and Winchester. Long term I think they’ll also have to move or stop storing all the tugs and cans in large flat outdoor areas and take that vertical to maximize space. If we ever get a MD replacement then it’ll almost certainly have a larger wingspan limiting gate space further.

Unknown Rider 11-18-2020 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by kronan (Post 3160248)
As PTB wrote, it's no longer and O&B lot. But a short time lot.

And one that's still frequently abused by various locals.

The cone cars\trucks can be hilarious to a very infrequent user of the lot.



While I’m sure it’s abused by locals as well, the biggest offenders I have seen are beaters with out of state tags who are parked in the same spot for a month or more. There’s a red Nissan there now with a cone on it that’s been there for a month or more. Out of state tags and a marine Corps tag. That’s not a local. Quite a few others there that fit the same profile but nobody’s bothered to put a cone on them.

Stan446 11-18-2020 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by WearyEyed (Post 3160200)
It’s past time for a parking garage with a covered walkway to AOC that could allow
2 or 3 times the current parking capacity...

Anchorage should get that first. Try walking to your car in 5F temps.

PeterGriffin 11-18-2020 08:24 AM

When did they officially change it to a 48 hour lot? I missed that memo

BlueAvi8tor 11-18-2020 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by PeterGriffin (Post 3160339)
When did they officially change it to a 48 hour lot? I missed that memo

i believe the company put up a sign that says it. I’m not sure when that happened though.

CloudSailor 11-18-2020 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3160321)
Anchorage should get that first. Try walking to your car in 5F temps.

While we're at it, the DEN ramp needs more parking spots. Not as cold as ANC, but it's close to a mile walk to the UPS lot (where most of our pilots have to park).

If I were SCP for a day, fixing parking issues would be one of my priorities, along with guaranteeing a complimentary hot breakfast at every hotel for inbound night-time/sunrise crews, plus I'd add 4 FDX-maintained bikes at every hotel where we have multiple crews with long enough layovers to enjoy riding them. Then again, I would probably only last a week in that position...

UnusualAttitude 11-18-2020 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 3160439)
While we're at it, the DEN ramp needs more parking spots. Not as cold as ANC, but it's close to a mile walk to the UPS lot (where most of our pilots have to park).

If I were SCP for a day, fixing parking issues would be one of my priorities, along with guaranteeing a complimentary hot breakfast at every hotel for inbound night-time/sunrise crews, plus I'd add 4 FDX-maintained bikes at every hotel where we have multiple crews with long enough layovers to enjoy riding them. Then again, I would probably only last a week in that position...

You have my full support.

123456 11-18-2020 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by PeterGriffin (Post 3160339)
When did they officially change it to a 48 hour lot? I missed that memo

Been that way for a few years now and I have an out of state tag but mainly do AM out and backs so not all non TN plates are violators!
(and yes, I know MANY 777 guys that park in there..)

PeterGriffin 11-18-2020 04:58 PM

Well, if you guys say it’s now the “48 hour” lot, that’s fine, but they still call it the out and back lot on vips to get the parking lot code....I still think it’s become the 48 hour lot because that’s what people have always called it in jest...I’ve seen no official documentation declaring it that, and yeah, I’m being a crybaby because I’ve just recently done a couple of out and backs and can’t find a single spot open in that lot...

Unknown Rider 11-18-2020 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by PeterGriffin (Post 3160611)
Well, if you guys say it’s now the “48 hour” lot, that’s fine, but they still call it the out and back lot on vips to get the parking lot code....I still think it’s become the 48 hour lot because that’s what people have always called it in jest...I’ve seen no official documentation declaring it that, and yeah, I’m being a crybaby because I’ve just recently done a couple of out and backs and can’t find a single spot open in that lot...


It says right on the gate there’s a 48 hr limit. It was changed by the SCP several years ago. I too have not been able to find a spot there many times. I see many cars parked there for weeks and months at a time. The new SCP needs to crack the whip.

PeterGriffin 11-18-2020 05:27 PM

Maybe they can bring “O” back from retirement and make that his special project...

0617Ld 11-20-2020 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by Unknown Rider (Post 3160625)
It says right on the gate there’s a 48 hr limit. It was changed by the SCP several years ago. I too have not been able to find a spot there many times. I see many cars parked there for weeks and months at a time. The new SCP needs to crack the whip.

maybe he should..I have noticed we have a very entitled culture within a select few of this pilot group. Basically screw the other guy while I get mine kind of thing. Or “ I have been here xx years so I’m entitled to do what ever the hell I want” Case in point the clown who rolled out of the out and back lot yesterday in his leather safari hat, wranglers and a suitcase the size of his ego. Clearly not going to be gone for less then 48hrs. Also took up two spots with his giant truck. But hey he got his spot while the rest of us do the bag drag to the Democrat.

magic rat 11-20-2020 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by 0617Ld (Post 3161227)
maybe he should..I have noticed we have a very entitled culture within a select few of this pilot group. Basically screw the other guy while I get mine kind of thing. Or “ I have been here xx years so I’m entitled to do what ever the hell I want” Case in point the clown who rolled out of the out and back lot yesterday in his leather safari hat, wranglers and a suitcase the size of his ego. Clearly not going to be gone for less then 48hrs. Also took up two spots with his giant truck. But hey he got his spot while the rest of us do the bag drag to the Democrat.

Let me guess, he had white NB sneakers on also?

MEMA300 11-20-2020 09:30 AM

OB lot should go to guys with 25 yos. :)

CloudSailor 11-20-2020 03:00 PM

Didn't our illustrious SCP, BM, park his fuel-savings-bonus Maserati in the 1 hour (short call) lot?

(I never saw it, heard it as a hilarious rumor - maybe on this forum - that seemed likely to be fact).

BluePAX 11-20-2020 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 3161457)
Didn't our illustrious SCP, BM, park his fuel-savings-bonus Maserati in the 1 hour (short call) lot?

(I never saw it, heard it as a hilarious rumor - maybe on this forum - that seemed likely to be fact).

I know it's anecdotal, and I may not know extenuating details, but I have personally seen managerial office workers walking out to their cars in the 1 hour lot.

BlueAvi8tor 11-20-2020 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by BluePAX (Post 3161484)
I know it's anecdotal, and I may not know extenuating details, but I have personally seen managerial office workers walking out to their cars in the 1 hour lot.

My understanding is that the one hour lot is a benefit of the position.

BluePAX 11-20-2020 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by BlueAvi8tor (Post 3161537)
My understanding is that the one hour lot is a benefit of the position.

Maybe we are talking about two different lots. I'm referring to the short call lot, which you get a code from scheduling for. Seemed odd that office guys were using it is ail.

PeterGriffin 11-20-2020 07:02 PM

As far as I’m concerned they should all get limo service from home for the crap they put up with...

stevenscreek 11-21-2020 12:14 AM

I thought it was a F-type (r) Jaguar. I remember seeing it parked in the short call lot

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BlueAvi8tor 11-21-2020 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by BluePAX (Post 3161547)
Maybe we are talking about two different lots. I'm referring to the short call lot, which you get a code from scheduling for. Seemed odd that office guys were using it is ail.

yeah maybe. There is some lot over there right in front of the AOC that I see those guy park and walk from.

Hacker15e 11-27-2020 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Unknown Rider (Post 3160625)
It says right on the gate there’s a 48 hr limit.

Since this post was made, someone has removed that "stop sign" shaped sign indicating the 48-hours that used to be on the entry gate!

PurpleToolBox 11-28-2020 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 3164103)
Since this post was made, someone has removed that "stop sign" shaped sign indicating the 48-hours that used to be on the entry gate!

How was it attached? Recently we've had two fronts come through and the winds were very strong.

MX727 11-28-2020 12:01 PM

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Here is a picture of the lot layout and names.

O&B for the obvious, plus weekends, 48 hour layovers max.

1 hour is for running in to drop off paperwork, get a new passport, see your Fleet management, etc. Security has taken over half of that lot.

Non-flight management is for everybody else in the building. Some TAA's, SIG, FOQA, ASAP have access.

Late call is for the late call-out reserve, draft, etc. trips as well as flight management (Fleet Caps, Standards Manager, Fleet Managers, ACP, Asst. ACP etc.).

BlueMoon 11-28-2020 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by MX727 (Post 3164262)
Here is a picture of the lot layout and names.

O&B for the obvious, plus weekends, 48 hour layovers max.

1 hour is for running in to drop off paperwork, get a new passport, see your Fleet management, etc. Security has taken over half of that lot.

Non-flight management is for everybody else in the building. Some TAA's, SIG, FOQA, ASAP have access.

Late call is for the late call-out reserve, draft, etc. trips as well as flight management (Fleet Caps, Standards Manager, Fleet Managers, ACP, Asst. ACP etc.).

Wish they had this map when I was new. I got called out at 3am for a 1 hour call out one morning. They gave me short call parking, except I had no idea where the lot was and neither did the scheduler and they removed the newhire guide from the iPad. I drove to every gate that would take a code and none worked. Finally a LCA type pulled up behind me and helped me out.

Noworkallplay 11-28-2020 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by PeterGriffin (Post 3161553)
As far as I’m concerned they should all get limo service from home for the crap they put up with...

Is this in reference to flight management? If it is im hoping it’s sarcasm.

Stan446 11-29-2020 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 3164270)
Wish they had this map when I was new. I got called out at 3am for a 1 hour call out one morning. They gave me short call parking, except I had no idea where the lot was and neither did the scheduler and they removed the newhire guide from the iPad. I drove to every gate that would take a code and none worked. Finally a LCA type pulled up behind me and helped me out.

Look, the newbies are ****ed about parking.


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