Question that boggles me
05-20-2021, 06:57 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
Yes we do have scope and this little amount is allowed under the scope clause. We are only talking 4 airframes.
05-20-2021, 06:58 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
Because as a group we aren't unified and are a bunch of yes men and women.
That FedEx doesn't come to the Union and say, hey, we're thinking we need to wetlease some extra lift...what do you guys think? What cities should we contract for?
05-20-2021, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kronan
It is NOT allowed under the Scope clause, that is why we are eventually going to receive some $$.
05-20-2021, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kronan
It is NOT allowed under the Scope clause, that is why we are eventually going to receive some $$.
05-20-2021, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
We had the exact same scenario (literally the exact same company on our ramp) a couple years ago, but our scope clause flat forbids UPS cargo on non-IPA flown aircraft that have a cargo capacity in excess of roughly 14,000lbs. We grieved it and the arbitrator set a timeline (legally binding) for kicking them off property and directed a penalty payment to the IPA pilots that doubled the expense for the company. Hopefully, you guys get a similar result. Nobody wins if either of our companies starts subbing out our work to the lowest bidder.
"All Domestic and International revenue flights conducted with aircraft
that are owned, leased, or operated by the Company, having a MTOGW
of greater than 60,000 lbs., and operated pursuant to the Company’s
Airline Operating Certificate or any additional Part 121 Airline Operating
Certificate obtained by the Company, shall be operated by pilots on
the Federal Express Master Seniority List in accordance with the terms
of the Agreement."
05-20-2021, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kronan
It is NOT allowed under the Scope clause, that is why we are eventually going to receive some $$.
05-21-2021, 04:11 AM
#18
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There's a lot of FedEx flying in the most recent Atlas bid pack on the 74. I hope you guys will get paid more for it instead of the peanuts they throw at us. The system is broke for sure. It'd be better if our groups were unified enough and worked together to stop it. Especially in this time of record profits for cargo carriers, big business tax breaks, and cares act money. We could all unify and fix it.
05-21-2021, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Fillmore Slim
There's a lot of FedEx flying in the most recent Atlas bid pack on the 74. I hope you guys will get paid more for it instead of the peanuts they throw at us. The system is broke for sure. It'd be better if our groups were unified enough and worked together to stop it. Especially in this time of record profits for cargo carriers, big business tax breaks, and cares act money. We could all unify and fix it.
Tell Fred to buy Atlas!
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